I doubt they'd go there, but there's also the option of Castiel winning the fight against Raphael but being so changed by channeling all those creepily mutated souls from Purgatory that he's effectively an antagonist in Season 7.
I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.
Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'
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Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2011 6:30:15 am PDT #19859 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Amy - May 19, 2011 6:31:57 am PDT #19860 of 30002
Because books.
It's all wish fulfillment. I think it's less fix-it and more that they love Dean and Cas, for example, but in that situation, if the writer were Dean, that's what she would want to happen. A disconnect between truth in characterization and personal fantasy.
I don't know if there's anywhere else for them to go with him as an angel, though.
I agree. I just don't want Cas to go away.
§ ita § - May 19, 2011 6:35:57 am PDT #19861 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
if the writer were Dean
And there is my disconnect. Now, none of us are like Dean, and that's a good thing. But if you have the emotional development of a middle schooler, why are you publically projecting that onto a 30 year old PTSD suffering killer? Who's a guy?
channeling all those creepily mutated souls
Do we know that he's been channelling them in the first place?
Amy - May 19, 2011 6:45:27 am PDT #19862 of 30002
Because books.
I didn't articulate that very well. It's more that if you are a teenager, you want Dean to have what would make you happy, i.e. a proposal with a kitten and the chance to call someone "fiance".
It's why in so much bad romance, men don't ever behave like, well, men, or speak like men. They turn into every soggy fantasy of the nice guy who only cares about the heroine's feeeeeelings and pleasure and lifelong desires.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2011 6:52:31 am PDT #19863 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Do we know that he's been channelling them in the first place?
I think it's implied that's what he did with the 50,000 he got from Crowley - tapping into them to charge up for that surprise attack instead of bowing to Raphael. But who knows what would happen if he opened Purgatory and started monkeying around with souls that are no longer exactly human.
§ ita § - May 19, 2011 6:52:32 am PDT #19864 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I get the bit where everyone wants everyone to hug. I really do. (MY god, the amount of Batfamily hugging fanart--it's incredible). But the number of authors I'm having to LJ note because they don't seem to be watching the same show with the same characters...I dunno, sometimes the disconnect creeps me out. I don't get what they can see in the canon.
§ ita § - May 19, 2011 6:53:16 am PDT #19865 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it's implied that's what he did with the 50,000 he got from Crowley - tapping into them to charge up for that surprise attack instead of bowing to Raphael
It's implied they were used in some way. But where's the indication they went through him? They may just have been fed into the war machine Rachel mentioned.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 19, 2011 6:57:09 am PDT #19866 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Crowley mentioned it being quite a coup for him to take 50,000 of them to Heaven with him, so apparently he has some way of transporting/transfiguring them along with himself. I'm just assuming the mechanism is similar to what we saw with Bobby.
Lee - May 19, 2011 6:58:32 am PDT #19867 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I rewatched Mommy Dearest this morning, and had a Duh, but Hey! moment-- when Cas was interrogating the Jefferson Starship in the jail cell, he was effectively human. but was still a BAMF, at least when it came to torture.
§ ita § - May 19, 2011 7:03:55 am PDT #19868 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
apparently he has some way of transporting/transfiguring them along with himself
Well, we know they make briefcases that can carry them.
I'm not saying they don't go through him--I'm just saying we have no evidence that they do. It could be for the weapons Balthazar was holding and they just feed into that, or he could be amping himself up. Remains to be seen.
when Cas was interrogating the Jefferson Starship in the jail cell, he was effectively human
What I liked about that moment was that Bobby looked at him like "But what can you do?" And then...he did what he could do. Because he's hardcore like a boss.