Zoe: I thought you wanted to spend more time off-ship this visit. Wash: Out there is seems like it's all fancy parties. I like our party better. The dress code is easier and I know all the steps.

'Shindig'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


§ ita § - May 12, 2011 12:48:53 pm PDT #19714 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Buffy did not kill Angel.

Sorry, that's a pet peeve. She sent him to a hell dimension, but stabbing a vampire in the gut doesn't kill him.

Death might have been preferable, but she didn't do it.

Admittedly the guy who's suggesting it is a Misha-hater (and subsequently a Cas-hater), but I really would be surprised if it came to that.

Catch up with me in just over a week.


Amy - May 12, 2011 12:52:52 pm PDT #19715 of 30002
Because books.

You don't agree that emotionally, if not technically, that's what it felt like she was doing? She even says so: "I told him I loved him, I kissed him, and I killed him."

I think that's more important than the mechanics of it. She banished him from her life in the most permanent way possible (or at least she thought so at the time), and if Dean had to do something similar, I think the emotional impact was resonate the same way.


§ ita § - May 12, 2011 1:27:14 pm PDT #19716 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For me, I see a difference between Dean dying in S3 and Sam going to Hell in S5, and that's the same difference between dusting a vamp and banishing them somewhere else.

I know she said she killed him, but I think that's sloppy writing I now have to reconcile with the character.

Maybe we'll get an is he/isn't he finale cliffhanger with Cas--would be interesting to have a non-Winchester cliffhanger--but I think it's way more likely he'll make a huge sacrifice that might end in death rather than it being at Dean's hand.

And I think it fairly unlikely he won't be back next year. Just fairly.


Amy - May 12, 2011 2:16:13 pm PDT #19717 of 30002
Because books.

that's the same difference between dusting a vamp and banishing them somewhere else.

For me, the impact (on her) was the same -- kill a vamp (in the Jossverse) and you assume he goes to hell, send him to a hell dimension, he ... goes to hell.

Either way, she thought it was forever, and she loved him. So it was a huge sacrifice on her part.

I don't think the SPN writers would shy away from having Dean do something similar with Cas, but it really depends on what the plan for next season is. I also think Dean has had enough losing people to last several lifetimes, especially by his own hand.

I think it's way more likely he'll make a huge sacrifice that might end in death rather than it being at Dean's hand.

Which leaves us with that, and I agree.


§ ita § - May 12, 2011 2:21:10 pm PDT #19718 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Actually, I never assumed vampires go to hell. I kinda just thought they stopped existing. Until Darla and Spike came back--irretrievable. Another dimension was nothing compared to that. Buffy went to one and came back. Lorne was from one.

As far as Dean killing "family" goes, I currently think (hedge, hedge) that Samuel was as far as they'll go, and although they had him sincere in his intentions, he was possessed when Sam killed him anyway.


Amy - May 13, 2011 8:56:23 am PDT #19719 of 30002
Because books.

There is not show tonight. Which made me sad until I realized that if there were, we'd be one hour closer to the end of the season.


Anne W. - May 13, 2011 12:36:15 pm PDT #19720 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Which made me sad until I realized that if there were, we'd be one hour closer to the end of the season.

Also, I'm looking forward to having a two-hour block of Show. That will be much, much fun.


Amy - May 13, 2011 12:41:53 pm PDT #19721 of 30002
Because books.

Oh yes, two hours of HEARTBREAK will be so much fun!

Kidding. I just assume it'll be heartbreak. But two solid hours is always a good thing.

Says she who generally watches both TNT reruns every morning, still.


Laga - May 13, 2011 2:24:00 pm PDT #19722 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Y'all have probably seen this already but jic- Dean/Cas Cherry Pie.


Juliebird - May 13, 2011 2:32:59 pm PDT #19723 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Reading "Time On My Hands", D/C, natch. Hello, good fic! I've forgotten what you looked like! They get sent to 1943, it's canon AR, but gives me the warm fuzzies that AU's do.

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