Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - May 03, 2011 7:03:26 am PDT #19518 of 30002
Because books.

In The Third Man, we see Dean pray for Cas and Cas appears, so maybe when he healed Dean at Stull, there was a really thorough scrubbing, as well? And Sam we can assume came back new, the way Dean did, after hell.

Should have been explained, yes. And it makes me wonder why Dean never questioned it.


§ ita § - May 03, 2011 7:30:14 am PDT #19519 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Have they summoned Balthazar with just a prayer yet?

Also, Sam went bodily into hell, so they can make his resurrection different if they want.


Amy - May 03, 2011 7:31:21 am PDT #19520 of 30002
Because books.

As far as I know, only Sam has summoned Balthazar, and that was with a spell, right? And that was also RoboSam, not that it matters, I guess.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 03, 2011 9:05:35 am PDT #19521 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Balthazar found them at the beginning of "The French Mistake" - was there a summoning ritual involved there? And Cas sensed when they were about to get par-broiled by Atropos and yanked them to safety, although honestly at this point I could see that as a case of him keeping one metaphorical eye on them constantly so he doesn't lose track.


Toddson - May 03, 2011 9:49:21 am PDT #19522 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

So basically, in addition to running heaven and fighting the rebel angels, it's always his day to watch the Winchesters?


§ ita § - May 03, 2011 10:04:32 am PDT #19523 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have officially reached the point of fic confusion (last week's canon "call your angel" "why is he suddenly *my* angel???" [eyeroll, proof of attribution] exchange may have busted me forever), but did Balthazar explain how he found them? I know the answer is "They were at Bobby's", but...did Virgil track the boys? Or did he track Balthazar? Are they naked now?

Also, did Dean actually call Cas last week, or did he just show up in his ass because it seemed like a good time for assness?


Toddson - May 03, 2011 10:30:56 am PDT #19524 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Dean's ass is magnetic?

edited for clarity


Calli - May 03, 2011 11:25:17 am PDT #19525 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Well, since Cas is apparently in some sort of cahoots with Crowley, maybe he planted another of those tracking coins on Dean. Or in Dean--the "hows" and "where" to be determined by the fic writer/artist of your choice.


§ ita § - May 03, 2011 11:47:29 am PDT #19526 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want to tell someone she's got the rules wrong. Sam or Dean can't be Cas's vessel unless you do some fanwanking heavy lifting. You can't just say "that'd be cool" and leave it there. That's not how you play.

Also, get over myself.

Speaking of myself. And Supernatural...am I being hard on a character I purport to love if I just really don't envision a domestic happy ending for Dean? Reading other places, you'd think you'd have to be a bitch to want him to hunt just one more second, but I want him to keep hunting, and I want him to be happy doing it, and I think the text totally allows me to project that as a happy ending for him.

Not the ultimate curtains, perhaps, but that's why I could never ship him with most of the women on the show bar Jo. And even that was mostly sex. He just...I like him on the road and agil.

Even Sam, I get sadface if he's paired with anyone other than Sarah, because I feel her letting him hunt is predestined in a way Dean never even managed with Lisa (because that was never going to work, simply).

But, I swear, to some parts of fandom, I'm a big old meanie who can't possibly love Dean the mostest. And I absolutely do.


Amy - May 03, 2011 11:55:56 am PDT #19527 of 30002
Because books.

I don't think you're the *biggest* meanie, because I agree with you in part. But I'm not sure I agree he would be happy hunting until his card is punched because he enjoys it. I think part of him is always, now, going to be making reparations for his time in hell, and before that he was programmed for too long to believe that innocent people needed saving from the same kind of *hell* he lived as a child, with his father broken and his mother dead and his baby brother essentially abandoned to his care.

I think he's seen too much, or knows too much about just how evil the world can be, in other words. And while I think he would still absolutely enjoy being on the road with Sam, especially hunting the simpler things (ghosts, werewolves, etc.), I think there's a part of him that really longs for companionship, and the emotional safety of someone who loves him.

I don't know if Lisa could ever be that, despite her intentions, because Ben will always come first. And having Ben in the picture changes things from Dean's perspective, too.

I guess I should change my answer to say I'm not sure Dean's ever going to be *at peace*.