This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 30, 2011 12:27:22 pm PDT #19483 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So did Cas pop up like that deliberately given what Dean had just said, or was he going for the sniffing-the-nape-of-the-neck-after-being-apart-too-long thing?


Juliebird - Apr 30, 2011 4:45:22 pm PDT #19484 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Hasn't Cas always had the tendency to pop up right behind Dean? We've just never seen in from that angle, pervy-style in it's full glory.

Rewatching Caged Heat: Whatever Cas' alliance with Crowley, Crowley isn't (obviously) on Cas' side. He was more than willing to kill them, and i would think that Cas showing up with the bones was huge improvisation on Cas' part, and Crowley was either game enough to play along, or their alliance, most probably, was so tenuous that Crowley truly thought he'd be roasted. All in all, I still like, extremely. For all that I've been wracking my brains about Cas' regrettable things, lying to the Winchesters is the most regrettable thing I can think of that means anything. And it's beautiful in it's shades-of-grey, greater-good, big-picture trappings.


Theresa - Apr 30, 2011 7:54:22 pm PDT #19485 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Whoa! I finally got to watch. So Crowley is working for Cas if he said, "I'm tired of cleaning up your messes?"

It was nice to see Cas come back into his terrifying power again.

I had to rewind most of Mary!Eve because I was so giddy over seeing Samantha Smith that I kept losing track of what she was saying. Yeah, yeah, you're not Mary and you are evil, but, omgitsoriginalmarysquee!!!

I think that it's pretty fixed that I love John, Dean, Sam and her no matter what. In the times that SS has been on the show, has she played actual Mary any time other than the pilot and then when she consumed the evil spirit in Home? Other than that has it always been a trick?


Lee - Apr 30, 2011 9:17:17 pm PDT #19486 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Does Dean's Djinn dream in What Is and What Should Never Be count as a trick? That seemed like the real Mary to me.


Theresa - Apr 30, 2011 10:00:45 pm PDT #19487 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I wanted it to be the real Mary, but it was what the Djinn was projecting into Dean's mind. She may have been memories that were realistic, but unfortunately not Mary.

I like to think she was like that all the times that we couldn't see her on camera though.


Morgana - May 01, 2011 12:14:13 am PDT #19488 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

In the times that SS has been on the show, has she played actual Mary any time other than the pilot and then when she consumed the evil spirit in Home? Other than that has it always been a trick?

Wow, I just checked and Samantha Smith has popped up on 7 episodes now. I hadn't realized it had been so many:

s1.01 - Pilot
s1.09 - Home
s2.20 - What Is and What Should Never Be
s2.21 - All Hell Breaks Loose, Part 1
s4.21 - When the Levee Breaks
s5.16 - Dark Side of the Moon
s6.19 - Mommy Dearest

As Theresa says, in WIAWSNB the Mary that we see is what the Djinn was projecting (as evidenced by her encouraging Dean to stay there in fantasy land, and therefore die). The Mary that Azazel shows Sam in the flashback during AHBL part I might be an accurate reflection, we don't know; what we do know is that Azazel would be showing Sam images that would be the most likely to incite Sam's anger.

The Mary in WtLB (oh just break my heart, why don't you?) is the product of Sam's grief and hallucinations. The Mary of DSofM (go ahead and stomp that sucker flat) is the manipulation of Zachariah. And then what we see in MD is projected by Eve.

So yeah, I think it's safe to say we haven't seen SS as the real Mary since Home. Of course we've seen Young Mary since then.


§ ita § - May 02, 2011 4:59:22 am PDT #19489 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Speaking of Cas being forgiven--if his reluctance to restore Sam's soul has anything to do with the game he's been playing--I think that's the biggest obstacle to Dean getting over it.


Amy - May 02, 2011 7:30:32 am PDT #19490 of 30002
Because books.

Speaking of Cas being forgiven--if his reluctance to restore Sam's soul has anything to do with the game he's been playing--I think that's the biggest obstacle to Dean getting over it.

I agree, although I can't make myself go there quite yet.

I feel like I need to rewatch the whole season to track Cas's actions and reactions now.


sumi - May 02, 2011 7:42:32 am PDT #19491 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Zap2it has a gallery of Season 6 Questions that Need Answers.


Amy - May 02, 2011 8:14:08 am PDT #19492 of 30002
Because books.

All good questions.

But this one confuses me:

If Sam picked [the amulet] up as has been hinted a few times, then what happened to it when he was in Hell?

When did they hint at that?

Edited to clarify what was hinted at.