I think it's going to be a deep shade of gray all around.

yesh.

A whole "ends justifying the means" and "road to hell" thing, where it's not as simple as black and white.

It's weird to see him back there, back to him on a park bench denying that he's a hammer and Dean fighting for the individual's, screw the big picture. Except now Cas isn't someone else's hammer, he's forged himself into one out of necessity.

I love that Cas spent the whole ep covered in blood. Out out, damned spot!

Has Dean bonded enough with Castiel that he will be able to forgive him the shades of gray?

He did forgive Sam, but that's Sam, so it's a whole different story.

I don't think that Cas will be the big bad in a sense that he will need to be fought and vanquished.

In the end, he's fighting to save lives, so I think it's a matter of him doing it the wrong way, rather than having the wrong motivation.

I don't expect (and kinda don't want) Crowley to be better that he seems. I like liking charismatic evil characters. Fic whitewashes him enough.

Has Dean bonded enough with Castiel that he will be able to forgive him the shades of gray?

I think the writers will probably have him forgiven, unless Misha is being written out. It's not just about the bond, it's also about the motivation, IMO.

As for forgiving Sam, one of Sam's transgressions was choosing Ruby over him. I think that was a large part of what he needed to be forgiven for, so it makes the comparisons moot.

Has Dean bonded enough with Castiel that he will be able to forgive him the shades of gray?

Are you kidding? CAS LIVES IN HIS ASS.

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I hope ita is ok. If I ended a post that way, par for the course. ita trailing off like that worries me a bit.

I'm pretty sure that's just a typo, Gar. I wouldn't worry.

And, wow, seeing Samantha Smith play Eve really showcased how bland and awful Julia Maxwell is.

Ha ha ha, seriously. I hadn't had too much of a problem with her, but when she was called on to say more than a phrase or a sentence, she didn't really bring it.

Let's talk about how Bobby looks at unrelenting carnage in a bar and deduces that everyone died of a fever. WHAT.

I copy and pasted that post together (it was going to be serial), and wasn't paying attention to whether or not I'd actually finished typing.

CAS LIVES IN HIS ASS.

It does need to be, uh, asscapped, doesn't it?

So did Cas pop up like that deliberately given what Dean had just said, or was he going for the sniffing-the-nape-of-the-neck-after-being-apart-too-long thing?

Hasn't Cas always had the tendency to pop up right behind Dean? We've just never seen in from that angle, pervy-style in it's full glory.

Rewatching Caged Heat: Whatever Cas' alliance with Crowley, Crowley isn't (obviously) on Cas' side. He was more than willing to kill them, and i would think that Cas showing up with the bones was huge improvisation on Cas' part, and Crowley was either game enough to play along, or their alliance, most probably, was so tenuous that Crowley truly thought he'd be roasted. All in all, I still like, extremely. For all that I've been wracking my brains about Cas' regrettable things, lying to the Winchesters is the most regrettable thing I can think of that means anything. And it's beautiful in it's shades-of-grey, greater-good, big-picture trappings.