Don't kill anyone if you don't have to. We're here to make a deal.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 22, 2011 7:56:35 pm PDT #19305 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Hmmm. It may be a factor that Castiel has to protect fragile human beings from whatever rigors traveling through time presents, whereas angels themselves are all but invulnerable.

Still, he and Zachariah managed to do so in "In the Beginning" and "The End" when they were possessed of far less power than he has at his disposal now. And none of that explains why there should be a 24 hour time limit on the present-day end of the journey, although I can see the travelers becoming more and more intertwined in the past era if they remain there too long.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2011 8:05:49 pm PDT #19306 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cas looks even more regrettable next week. Or more regretty. Tired.

It seems clear that souls are power sources, but I don't think they're touching them and using them as personal power sources. But, maybe. Bobby did look tuckered out.

That wasn't Frontierland. That was Fetishland. And I love how Dean got on not only his Western geek, but he's clearly established himself as the go to sci fi nerd. That's just not Sam's bag.

I need to watch the Rachel scenes again. She had a not of noise about her coming--I'd have thought she'd have lasted longer.

Her points to Dean were pissy as shit, but basically valid. Cas is again choosing Winchesters over people on his team and bits of the cause. This can't go well, considering he's no doubt doing things that will make Dean especially angry.

He has some dirty little secret, so bad that hardass Rachel is going rogue on him--like he went rogue last season. So he's fighting Raphael, and he's fighting his own...is it last episode she found out about? Or is there something else? Does Balthazar know?

God, he needs a hug. And a war crimes tribunal.


Typo Boy - Apr 22, 2011 8:08:57 pm PDT #19307 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I can fanwank: back when it was impossible to change history you were not 100% there. It was easier to travel back in time. Now that the rules are suspended and you can change things it also takes more energy to get into the past. But an Angel transporting itself takes less energy than transporting fragile dead weight, as Matt pointed out above.

I think it fits, though no better than a bunch of other possibilities.


-t - Apr 22, 2011 10:04:53 pm PDT #19308 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well, that was worth staying up for. I love seeing Dean filled with joy at authenticity, etc. And "giant from the future with a magic brick" is gold.

I feel bad for the phoenix. Poor guy didn't really deserve to be killed, just for what he was.


Anne W. - Apr 23, 2011 3:57:56 am PDT #19309 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

(skims episode talk, cheating slightly due being fairly spoiled anyway)

When do eps usually go up on iTunes? As Marcia indicated, we got pre-empted by storm coverage.


Juliebird - Apr 23, 2011 4:16:09 am PDT #19310 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

It's up now, Anne.


Anne W. - Apr 23, 2011 4:20:32 am PDT #19311 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Thanks!


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 23, 2011 4:38:08 am PDT #19312 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wish we'd seen the Phoenix rising from its own ashes, as that's rather the point.


Juliebird - Apr 23, 2011 4:39:31 am PDT #19313 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Were those feathers or ash that we saw floating in the air after Cas kills Rachel?

Also, did I jump to the wrong conclusion last night about Cas getting powered up by the souls as his regrettable thing, or is there something more to come? Because leaving Bobby tuckered out doesn't seem to be it.

I'm also still stuck on how it seemed a big deal here, but not with Sam or the little boy.


DebetEsse - Apr 23, 2011 5:00:57 am PDT #19314 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I'm pretty sure we don't know what the Big Wrong Thing Cas has been doing is (and I'm ready for the show to stop hinting, personally)

I think a big difference was that, here, the only point was to give Cas his 5x healing, whereas in those other cases, it was, in some way at least, for the good of the person whose soul was being felt up: examining a clue, more or less.