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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Apr 07, 2011 4:53:30 pm PDT #18930 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

OMG, Lazarus Rising, where Dean comes back from the dead and has no clothes and wears Sam's??? How wonderful was that?

I'm sure Dean regards most of the prints on Sam's shirts the way he regards his music, and fanon has him regarding his hair. But he'd be horrified if Sam started to emulate him. He might be cool, but he's worthy.


Amy - Apr 07, 2011 5:00:38 pm PDT #18931 of 30002
Because books.

Sam probably grew up wearing all of Dean's outgrown stuff. The clothes sharing must go way back.

I would love to read a gen story focusing on the summer (or whenever) when Sam had the last growth spurt before he left for Stanford, and Dean realized Sam was actually taller than he was.


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2011 5:14:54 pm PDT #18932 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I went from shorter than most of my relatives to skinnier than most of them, so I was always prime hand-me-down territory. No skin off my nose. I'd bet it would bother Dean, though.

It's mad convenient being my sister's size now though, let me tell you.


Amy - Apr 07, 2011 5:19:16 pm PDT #18933 of 30002
Because books.

I think Dean would subconsciously associate being big brother/protector with needing to be physically bigger. At least at first. I'd hope he's used to it now.


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2011 5:28:21 pm PDT #18934 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For a while, I was convinced that Dean could still take Sam despite the size difference, because he was wily and a badass.

Now I'm going to have to recuse myself from the debate.


Theresa - Apr 07, 2011 5:30:39 pm PDT #18935 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I have a plain T-shirt kink while guys are working on cars. If I'd had Lisa like access, the grey shirt from when Dean smashed up the Impala in Bobby's yard, would still be in my possession. I would sleep in it every night and if it had started to fall apart, I would make it into a pillow cover.

Post intimacy though, I don't think I've ever worn the guys' clothes either. That's not something that ever occurs to me as being cute or endearing as much as "hey look, this is me being a weird girlfriend". In a long term relationship, I might adopt a longer shirt ala Amy's suggestion for Lisa, but it never happened before.

I have to think that Dean had at least a momentary knock to his ego when little brother became bigger than him. Our culture equates taller and bigger with better and more manly, however wrong headed that is. But it's there and would cross Dean's mind.

For a while, I was convinced that Dean could still take Sam despite the size different, because he was wily and a badass.

This was true through the beginning of the series. When was the first time that we saw Sam really "win" in a brawl with Dean? Was it as late as when Dean was lying on the floor telling him if he walked out the door, not to come back, echoing Sir's words. Come to think of it, I think we have approached the time when Sam would be able to over power Sir. Obvs, if Sir were still alive.


Amy - Apr 07, 2011 5:56:59 pm PDT #18936 of 30002
Because books.

I think by the time S3 rolled around, Sam could take Dean, but probably *wouldn't*, for a lot of reasons.

Psychologically, I'm not sure what it would take for him to really take John down, were John still alive. As angry!young!man! as S1 Sam was, he still couldn't shoot him when he needed to (not lethally, anyway). And that's a gun -- physical contact is much more intimate.

I'm sure I'm overthinking this. Surprise!


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2011 6:12:59 pm PDT #18937 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Was it as late as when Dean was lying on the floor telling him if he walked out the door, not to come back, echoing Sir's words.

He was juiced up on demon blood then, though, wasn't he? I don't think we've seen them scuffle since then. The last beatdown, after Veritas, RoboSam just took it. And I'm pretty sure RoboSam could whup Dean's ass.

I still think John could take them both still, even if I waver on which of the brothers would win. I can think of guys with similar size differences where both train and the smaller one would win, but we now have a Sam with much less hesitation than he used to.

I just think John has none.


Theresa - Apr 07, 2011 6:18:50 pm PDT #18938 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I just think John has none.

So true. Oh, John.


Typo Boy - Apr 07, 2011 6:20:42 pm PDT #18939 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think in a dead even "fair fight" Sam would win against Dean. When both are fast and strong and skilled, muscle and mass are decisive. But give Dean some tiny advantage he can use to leverage his greater experience and cunning and I think Dean wins. I have no opinion on John.