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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Juliebird - Jan 13, 2011 1:09:28 pm PST #17062 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

It makes sense that Zachariah wouldn't have had all the angels in his pocket with wanting the duel to take place. Especially with the subterfuge that the party line was to put a stop to Lucifer. That's the official party line, and the most widely accepted righteous agenda.

So how would the majority of Heaven feel towards Cas? He didn't stand by the fink Zach, but he also didn't stand by the majority rule, and now he's sheriffing.

Did Raphael stand with the majority? Was/is he also an outlier like Zach and Cas?


Juliebird - Jan 13, 2011 1:10:48 pm PST #17063 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Or maybe they purged the rebellion from her, and that was her sense of mission.

This actually makes the most sense to me. It was her own personal interpretation of Heaven's Will after reformation.


Anne W. - Jan 13, 2011 1:11:17 pm PST #17064 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

It was her own personal interpretation of Heaven's Will after reformation.

Ooh. I like that.


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2011 1:13:02 pm PST #17065 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think of Zach as an outlier. He was working for Michael, and that was where the power was. I think of Michael as having been in charge, Raphael as able to command the next level down, Lucifer fallen, and Gabriel abstaining.

So in Michael's absence, Raphael probably ascends to that position, except--spoiler factor of the oft-resurrected nerdy angel.


Juliebird - Jan 13, 2011 1:17:43 pm PST #17066 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I meant outlier in the sense that, even though Zachariah and Michael and Raphael were the ones in power, that the general masses were kept in the dark as to their true agenda, that the general masses believed that the true agenda was to stop Lucifer immediately, not indulge in a M/L face-off of pissy bitchitude.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 13, 2011 3:27:23 pm PST #17067 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I would imagine the "Wait, we LET Lucifer escape? THAT was the plan all along?" revelation is what resulted in a lot of the angels deciding to throw in with Castiel or otherwise rebel against Raphael like Balthazar did.


Theresa - Jan 13, 2011 3:49:27 pm PST #17068 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Can you imagine poor Uriel's reaction. Oh man, I'm kind of glad for his sake that he is dead so he doesn't have to be so disillusioned.


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2011 6:37:44 pm PST #17069 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love this artist's angry faces. Wee Sam!


Laga - Jan 13, 2011 8:51:15 pm PST #17070 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Dean on a leash!


Juliebird - Jan 13, 2011 10:30:52 pm PST #17071 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Uriel wanted Dean dead (not Zachariah's plan) and Lucifer free.

So that's another faction, however many angels Uriel managed to "convert", that didn't care about the face-off, but thought that God was a shitty dad, humans suck, and wanted their brother Lucifer back. And he was the dude killing other angels, so whoever he converted would probably keep on trying to convert, killing other angels, and angling for Lucifer's jailbreak.