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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Dec 06, 2010 8:23:21 am PST #16304 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Someone just mentioned on IO9 that the voiceover for next week's promo was incredibly wacky, whereas the content matter definitely wasn't. Can they really lead with comedy in an episode where Dean dies and Sam tries to kill Bobby?


sumi - Dec 06, 2010 8:24:30 am PST #16305 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

It's true - the v.o. made it seem like wacky highjinks but then Dean is dead and it appears that Sam is about to murder Bobby.


Amy - Dec 06, 2010 8:47:12 am PST #16306 of 30002
Because books.

Cas trying to teach Dean computers has excellent comic possibilities.

Not that I could write it. I barely manage to use my own computer, and I'm not proud of it.


JenP - Dec 06, 2010 8:54:13 am PST #16307 of 30002

Thoughts from last ep include but are not limited to: Cas looked down because of the knife steal; agree that Dean's reaction and hand gestures during the kiss were hilarious and priceles; RoboSam continues to rock my world; what about Adam's soul, dudes? Was he still in there when Michel jumped in? Did that do him in by itself?; I'm not convinced Sam's soul is mangled beyond repair, but I'm unsure why I feel that way; apologies to Tep for semi-colon abuse.


sumi - Dec 06, 2010 8:56:52 am PST #16308 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

I'm not convinced Sam's soul is mangled beyond repair because I refuse to believe that Show wants to have a permanently de-souled Sam.


JenP - Dec 06, 2010 9:10:09 am PST #16309 of 30002

Yes, that for sure. I think it may be relatively undamaged somehow is what I really mean. I don't know that I think Michael is protecting it, though. I just don't know... something.


sumi - Dec 06, 2010 9:16:09 am PST #16310 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Maybe in Hell Michael and Lucifer are in their orginal Angelic forms and that is why Crowley was able to pull Sam out of the cage. (Assuming we can believe anything Crowley said.)

Thus - Sam's soul is just hanging out as a disembodied entity not tied to Lucifer.


§ ita § - Dec 06, 2010 9:34:43 am PST #16311 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think that we can possibly go through all the sadface trauma that would result from Cas being right. But I think it serves the story very well for everyone to assume it is the truth.


Theresa - Dec 06, 2010 9:37:27 am PST #16312 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I was thinking re earlier discussion, why are we making the assumption that Mary is in Heaven? I'm completely unspoiled but suspect that is why show is building up the mythos of Purgatory. I think that is where Samuel came from and why he may want to get Mary out. He still might have come from Heaven but if he didn't have Mary with him there (where one assumes he would have had the time and opportunity to assuage his guilt if she was with him) then he may suspect he has to get her out of Purgatory.

All of this may be moot however with Crowley gone. He was the only one talking about getting the location of purgatory. No one else has been interested in it, have they?


Amy - Dec 06, 2010 9:39:24 am PST #16313 of 30002
Because books.

I'm still unclear on how Crowley had the mojo to get Samuel out of heaven, if he was there. But I can't see why he would have gone to hell or purgatory.

I'm rewatching now, and I still don't get what Samuel means about Dean choosing Sam over Mary.