I'm still unclear on how Crowley had the mojo to get Samuel out of heaven, if he was there. But I can't see why he would have gone to hell or purgatory.
I'm rewatching now, and I still don't get what Samuel means about Dean choosing Sam over Mary.
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I'm still unclear on how Crowley had the mojo to get Samuel out of heaven, if he was there. But I can't see why he would have gone to hell or purgatory.
I'm rewatching now, and I still don't get what Samuel means about Dean choosing Sam over Mary.
why are we making the assumption that Mary is in Heaven?
Are we? Which is to say, I have pointed out that we don't know where she is, because show has deliberately not told us when the topic came up.
I think all Sampa means about Dean choosing Sam over Mary is that either Sam gets his soul back or Mary comes back--he sees those as contradictory, because of how the boys are working at odds with Crowley.
Oh, I get it.
But why does Dean say "Break an ankle" when he's fighting the demons? That was odd.
Crowley's demons were always very well clad, I have to say.
Crowley doesn't know where Purgatory is, he can't have gotten Samuel out of it. And if Purgatory is where dead vampires and shapeshifters, etc. go when they die (do they have souls? It's so confusing) sending human souls who aren't bad enough to go to hell there seems pretty mean.
Granted, it's not a very nice universe.
I was thinking that maybe because we don't know the laws of who goes to Heaven and who has done questionable things but maybe not bad enough for hell, that perhaps Mary making the deal with YED qualified her for some time in purgatory before Heaven. Isn't that some of the lore, that Purgatory is for not bad people but those that just weren't clean enough to go straight to Heaven. After their cleansing time, then they go on to Heaven.
I'm pulling this out of my butt with no theological instruction, but since show often does the same thing, I think that is fair practice. I might check wiki to see what show is probably using as rules for Purgatory.
We have no information that humans go to Purgatory, but Mary was a spirit, so maybe the rules for her are different.
I doubt we can extrapolate any rules from outside onto Purgatory, because starting with "monsters go there" I think they broke loose from most other canon.
I'm pretty sure purgatory is a fairly Catholic concept, and as far as I know monsters (i.e. the wicked, the evil, any who egregiously are not in God's grace) would go straight to hell.
Fair point. Also with Crowley gone, Purgatory is probably going to be forgotten. I'm thiking the emphasis will go back to locating Lucifer's cage and retrieving Sam's (or what is left of Sam's ) soul.
Uh, one of the commenters says they voted 1000 times. I wonder what the margin was. Also...weirdo.
(I didn't vote more than once a day, tops! Totally balanced)