Maybe he blames Dean for not bringing Mary back from the dead by selling his soul instead of Sam? Honestly, Samuel's motivations in all this make absolutely no sense to me. Mary is presumably in a better place - he wants to drag her back down to an earth where her kids would be demon chow thanks to him betraying them?

Nor do I understand why Castiel is concerned about the wellbeing of Sam's tangible bits but not the sanctity of his soul if it's in the cage as Lucifer and Michael's chewtoy.

I just don't get Samuel wanting his daughter back more than his wife. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, except for how viewers know Mary as a character and not Deanna. Sloppy writing there.

I have to watch that again. That was ... one of the most fucked up episodes I can remember. And the sound editing seemed bad -- there was a lot of dialogue I couldn't understand.

Still, Cas saying to Sam, "Will you, boy?" SHIVERS. And BAMFy Sam with Cas and in the cell. Christ, RoboSam is sort of awesome.

A whole lot of testerone-poisoning and dick-measuring in this episode, for sure.

Yeah, how did Dean choose Sam over Mary?

If Samuel thinks that Mary is going to forgive him for not helping her boys, he doesn't really know her. Has he even met her? Maybe as her dad, he doesn't care if she forgives him, as long as he can see her alive. But if she is Heaven, why would he do that? I just don't understand.

OMG,I was so so very embarrassed when Samuel walked in while Castiel was watching porn. He must have become Grampa in my mind, because I was shouting, "turn off the porn"! Castiel made it all better by deadpanning "We're not supposed to talk about it." hahahaha

Damn--I was ready for Meg to die. Then she survived the hellhounds and I was back in her corner. She stepped over the invisible hound body and I was all about Meg the BAMF!!

Castiel kissing her was also hot. I felt like I was watching porn.

OH--biggest Holy Shit of the night for me was canon that Castiel is anatomically correct! Well, there we have it. And he has learned moves from the pizza man of porn. I want to sleep with him.

Jensen killed me when he was talking to Sampa. I don't know how it's possible to look so angry and still project such hurt at the same time. Damn, dude. Once again, I understand that you are the professional.

Jared's kickin' it with this emotionless Sam too. I'm completely believing him. And he's hot.

Jared's kickin' it with this emotionless Sam too.

The grin with the bloody mouth? Also, BITING HIMSELF for his own blood?! I can't even.

Yes, still a Deangirl...but umf Sam.

I just don't get Samuel wanting his daughter back more than his wife. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me, except for how viewers know Mary as a character and not Deanna. Sloppy writing there.

I don't know. I'm divorced so not a fair judge of the relationships, but there wasn't a time that I remember after my son was born that I wouldn't have chosen to save him over my ex. I completely understood him doing that.

I agree that if Samuel thinks his daughter would forgive him for choosing her over saving her sons - he really doesn't know her. Is it excusable that he died before she was even married?

As the Meg/Castiel kiss was going down, I was hoping they were pulling a fast one and switching meatsuits so any demonic/angelic countermeasures would be used against the wrong one.

Meh. I pretty much hated this episode. I found the constant innuendo tedious, the torture porn as awful as it always is, and pretty much everyone's motivation murky.

The one shining moment was Crowley going up in flames before he finished saying no.

I have so much fucked up love for this episode, it's not even right. Take out the nekkid Meg torturing and I'd enshrine it.

I don't know where to start.

Okay, I do. Dean is going to fuck Samuel's shit UP. He's going to kill FAMILY. Sam threatened to kill Castiel. Castiel called Dean boy. He BAMFed in all senses. He had an erection. Or two. He was the mack daddy. Sampa lost his mind.

I buy that, by the way. Not in a good or healthy way, but in a torn-from-me I'm-raised-from-the-dead life-is-fucked way.

God, that was too much fun.

They killed Crowley! Bye, bye! No king in hell! And Sam is walking away! I love that Sam was all about the mission and saving Dean and all that even without the finer emotions, but homeslice has a point.

I love Team Free Will so freaking much right now it gives me an ache.

Angel woodie! I hope the D/C kiddies are writing the correct codas right now. This is even more fertile than 5x03.