On my seventh birthday, I wanted a toy fire truck, and I didn't get it, and you were real nice about it, and then the house next door burnt down, and then real firetrucks came, and for years I thought you set the fire for me. And if you did, you can tell me!

Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Beverly - Nov 28, 2010 9:51:47 am PST #16079 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh Ash. Or, Bilbo. Razor. Mirror.

Now Bishop, I could get behind.

Eh, the robot heads are all you, Theresa. Whatever blows your hair back. /Dean

ETA: Okay, lest this post let slip the fact I'm even more random than you expected, Ash was played by Ian Holm, who also played Bilbo in FotR. My favorite role of his, the one I instantly think of when I see his face, is Capitaine Phillipe d'Arnot, the man who "discovered" Christopher Lambert (before he was Connor MacLeod), and taught him to shave--"Razor. Mirror."--in Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2010 1:39:58 pm PST #16080 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

OMG, can people stop saying Supernatural is totally devoid of strong female characters? They aren't around enough, but it's definitely not that they can't write them--just that they don't value keeping them.

Oy.

Ellen is mighty pissed right now, and Missouri is going to smack some people with a spoon. And you really don't want to get Meg or Ruby ticked off.


Anne W. - Nov 29, 2010 1:45:45 pm PST #16081 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Lisa and Jo might have a few things to say, too. Or Sheriff Mills.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2010 1:47:25 pm PST #16082 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are so fucking many. Expiration dates too soon, or they don't come around often enough, but that's really not the same thing.

Grump.


Amy - Nov 29, 2010 2:01:20 pm PST #16083 of 30002
Because books.

Even a lot of the non-recurring characters are kickass women. The girl from Wendigo, for example, or the girl from Asylum. Nancy from Jus in Bello was a really strong female character. Not a common one, maybe, but one who had faith and determination and courage and intelligence.

Bela wasn't an *attractive* character, but she was a strong woman, too.


Polter-Cow - Nov 29, 2010 2:07:33 pm PST #16084 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Bela wasn't an *attractive* character

Oh, I thought she was very attractive.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2010 2:10:15 pm PST #16085 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She's more attractive on Vampire Diaries.


Polter-Cow - Nov 29, 2010 2:10:43 pm PST #16086 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Whaaaat. Don't make me watch Vampire Diaries.


Juliebird - Nov 29, 2010 2:16:46 pm PST #16087 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I think there's some confusion over the overly sexualized victims-of-the-week or the sexualized violence towards the female persons on the show, and an actual character on the show. Although the torture of Ruby by Alistair springs to mind. But that does not disqualify her from being a strong female character. Or an evil bitch.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2010 2:19:33 pm PST #16088 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sexualised torture is one reason I tune in! And it's not the females I'm drooling over. My gender issues with the show are the incredibly nubile victims and the fact that they don't recur the good women properly, in that order. Not that they can't write distinct and varied female characters.

Don't make me watch Vampire Diaries.

She's only been on two eps so far, if that helps. But I actually like her this time round.