It's not like she blew me off. She just left with another guy, that's all.

Riley ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Juliebird - Nov 29, 2010 2:16:46 pm PST #16087 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I think there's some confusion over the overly sexualized victims-of-the-week or the sexualized violence towards the female persons on the show, and an actual character on the show. Although the torture of Ruby by Alistair springs to mind. But that does not disqualify her from being a strong female character. Or an evil bitch.


§ ita § - Nov 29, 2010 2:19:33 pm PST #16088 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sexualised torture is one reason I tune in! And it's not the females I'm drooling over. My gender issues with the show are the incredibly nubile victims and the fact that they don't recur the good women properly, in that order. Not that they can't write distinct and varied female characters.

Don't make me watch Vampire Diaries.

She's only been on two eps so far, if that helps. But I actually like her this time round.


tiggy - Nov 29, 2010 2:34:44 pm PST #16089 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Whaaaat. Don't make me watch Vampire Diaries.

come to the Dark Side. we have pretty girls.


Polter-Cow - Nov 29, 2010 2:40:23 pm PST #16090 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

She's only been on two eps so far, if that helps. But I actually like her this time round.

I saw some pictures on IMDb, and I like her hair better on SPN. Although I do dig that cut on some women.

come to the Dark Side. we have pretty girls.

I've heard!


Juliebird - Nov 29, 2010 3:16:18 pm PST #16091 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I suppose this is an English/Literature/Writing question:

When there is a dialogue going on, and it's back and forth, I understand that there is no need to identify the speakers after the initial introduction. However, in the middle of that, is it appropriate to have the second speaker give an unidentified reaction while the first speaker continues?

Like,

Speaker 1 "Blah"

Speaker 2 "Blahdee"

Speaker 1 "Blahblah" He rolled his eyes[2] "Blahdahbadeeblah"[1]

Because I've come across that in a few fics and it confuses the hell out of me, and am wondering if I have reading comprehension issues, or the writers have the dysfunction.


Amy - Nov 29, 2010 3:19:12 pm PST #16092 of 30002
Because books.

Speaker 1 "Blahblah" He rolled his eyes[2] "Blahdahbadeeblah"[1]

Is that broken up into paragraphs? Because if not, I would assume Speaker 1 is rolling his eyes in the middle of his speech.


Juliebird - Nov 29, 2010 3:25:02 pm PST #16093 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

EXACTLY!

Okay, so Iahm not iliterit.


Amy - Nov 29, 2010 3:38:38 pm PST #16094 of 30002
Because books.

I'm not following you -- is it broken up or not? Because if it's not, then why isn't the first speaker?


Juliebird - Nov 29, 2010 3:43:21 pm PST #16095 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Sorry, yeah, got excited over the confirmation of my not crazy, which maybe expounded my crazy. Paragraph is NOT broken up.


Ginger - Nov 29, 2010 3:47:13 pm PST #16096 of 30002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

However, in the middle of that, is it appropriate to have the second speaker give an unidentified reaction while the first speaker continues?

No.

There is a story about Hemingway. He was speaking to students who had been reading "A Clean Well-Lighted Place." There is a long run of alternating dialogue between the Old Waiter and the Young Waiter and it becomes very fuzzy as to who is speaking. Who is speaking is important to understanding the scene. A student asks Hemingway to clarify. Hemingway looks at the dialogue and days, "It's perfectly clear to me."