Soulless Sam is happier
can you be happy without a soul?
Mal: Zoe, why do I have a wife? Jayne: You got a wife? All I got is that dumbass stick sounds like its raining. How come you got a wife?
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
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le nubian - Nov 13, 2010 3:49:54 am PST #15781 of 30002
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Juliebird - Nov 13, 2010 3:57:14 am PST #15782 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I wouldn't call it happy, so much as the knowledge of an absence of pain, guilt, shame, responsibility, hunger, anger, frustration. While still being tied to emotional words, the closest thing I could say Sammy might be feeling is "relief". But then he also has the memories of the good stuff, and then what he'd be experiencing is "loss". I'm sure someone could phrase that better, using non-emotional words.
Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 13, 2010 3:58:31 am PST #15783 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It's pretty clear that he can enjoy things in the moment, although abstract happiness is a dicier prospect.
ehab - Nov 13, 2010 4:12:30 am PST #15784 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
Huh. Now I'm worried show is going to have Sam somehow have Lisa and Ben's lives in his hands. Will he use them to manipulate Dean? No reason in his mind not to. He's said as much.
Laga - Nov 13, 2010 4:30:12 am PST #15785 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
The gag with the ball served no other purpose than to amuse himself. I think he's having a relatively good time. I bet, when the time comes, he won't be too eager to be reuinted with his soul.
§ ita § - Nov 13, 2010 4:32:47 am PST #15786 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If soulless Sam is more happy (or whatever's the equivalent), why is he trying to change his state?
Laga - Nov 13, 2010 4:50:33 am PST #15787 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
He's not trying too hard to change his state. But I'm sure he doesn't like the idea of his soul being stuck in a cage forever.
ehab - Nov 13, 2010 5:00:44 am PST #15788 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
I think Sam sees getting his soul back as necessary. He recognizes somehow that he's incomplete.
That said, I wonder what end game souless Sam might be playing if that's not his objective.
§ ita § - Nov 13, 2010 5:23:39 am PST #15789 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
What do you mean he's not trying too hard? He's the one complying without question to the terms, and sticking with Dean is about nothing else. He's certainly trying as hard as Dean is. It would be much simpler for him to be off by himself and not trying at all, but he's chosen something else, something harder.
Webclip. Oh, Sam. Poor Dean. Welcome to...you know...the other side.
ehab - Nov 13, 2010 5:32:28 am PST #15790 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
I am getting such a kick out of Dean being Sam's moral compass.