Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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ehab - Oct 25, 2010 2:54:52 pm PDT #15270 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Sorry, it was an editing problem. I've got it fixed.

And I thought maybe he was saying they would sense it because of the time they spent in Hell. I suddenly had visions of Dean's hand print burning bright in the presence of Lucifer.

I might be a bit fanciful today.


Amy - Oct 25, 2010 2:55:46 pm PDT #15271 of 30002
Because books.

You beat me! Heh.

That would be cool, actually, but I sort of doubt that'll happen.


§ ita § - Oct 25, 2010 3:33:12 pm PDT #15272 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We've never had an canonical evidence, I don't think, that Castiel reads minds. Dream walks, but that's about it. I can't think of any time an angel has displayed mind-reading sort of telepathy.

I think Dean's concern was that Sam was Lucifer, and that was what Cas allayed. Because they'd have sensed him being loose again.

Just read the Dean/Jo/Cas reverse big bang. Completely failed to sell me on that relationship, damned shame.


Juliebird - Oct 25, 2010 3:43:24 pm PDT #15273 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

What we've had is two instances that I can think of that can nebulously be considered mind-reading.

The "You don't think you deserve to be saved" in 4x01, and the knowing "What were you dreaming about?" a couple of eps later.

I'd think that if there was angelic mind-reading abilities, there wouldn't be such a disconnect between angels and humans. Cas would have rebelled long ago, and Zacchariah would have been more suave about trying to persuade Dean to say yes to Michael.


§ ita § - Oct 25, 2010 3:49:48 pm PDT #15274 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think either of those count as corroboration, especially not the dream one, since we know angels can spy on those--there's no indication they can pull thoughts from a conscious mind.

Knowing Dean doesn't think he deserves saving means you have eyes in your face.

Zachariah did a really crap job on Dean, if he had any true idea what was going through his head, and Michael not that much better.


Juliebird - Oct 25, 2010 3:59:42 pm PDT #15275 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

perzaktly.

Also, I am enjoying the Dark Shadows fusion. Also, I have no experience with Dark Shadows, except that it sounds like an awesome show.


Morgana - Oct 25, 2010 5:09:23 pm PDT #15276 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

PROFOUND BOND, BABY.

I don't mean to throw cold water on your profound bond (or okay, maybe I do), but didn't Dean say that he'd tried to reach Castiel for the entire year before Castiel reappeared, but that Castiel never bothered to respond to him any more than he had to Sam? And then Castiel only showed up when he himself needed something, not when he could help the Winchesters.


Beverly - Oct 25, 2010 5:22:29 pm PDT #15277 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

That's my recall on it. Cas has been busy with his own business, not on Winchester call, even for Dean. I wonder what tripped that switch, though: Dean taking up hunting again? Sam reveal? Or just Cas' own timing?


§ ita § - Oct 25, 2010 5:28:41 pm PDT #15278 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

didn't Dean say that he'd tried to reach Castiel for the entire year before Castiel reappeared, but that Castiel never bothered to respond to him any more than he had to Sam?

Nope. Dean never tried to call Cas that we know of before what we saw in 6x03, and then Cas showed up immediately. Cited the profound bond, and then threw cold water on Dean's face.

But no, no ignored calls in the episodes we've seen to date.


Amy - Oct 25, 2010 5:34:53 pm PDT #15279 of 30002
Because books.

didn't Dean say that he'd tried to reach Castiel for the entire year before Castiel reappeared

No, Sam said that. Dean definitely had the air of a first-timer when trying to call Cas.