I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.

Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Amy - Oct 23, 2010 4:55:39 am PDT #15167 of 30002
Because books.

And when Sampa thinks you're off, you're off.

That was an excellent twist. I think, too, when Sampa said to Dean, "I'm not here to kill you, I'm here to save you," Sam's reaction was more than surprise. It almost sounded like ... unhappy surprise.

It bothered me when Sampa said that Dean must have "some Campbell in him" after all, though. He's a WINCHESTER. Hi, irrational hot button.

Dean pushing Lisa against the wall = inappropriately badwrongdirty HOT.

Also? Kripke's got to lay off reading the fanfic. Yes, we all know, and have read, how pretty Dean is. Thanks. Got it. Glad you're in the club, though.

I have to rewatch. That moment when Sam waits and watches hit like the proverbial ton of bricks. SAM. What's going on there, dude?!


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2010 5:05:18 am PDT #15168 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does anyone else think that this is absolutely terrible?

No. It hit me on more levels than an episode had in a while. I'm left wondering about Sam, Dean, Sampa, Lisa, and Ben. The actual story made me tense, and had creepy and disturbing visuals, not just jump-out-of-my-seat scary ones.

So if Sam stood and watched, and then seemed all anxious to get the vamp off Dean, seemed firm that he wouldn't kill Dean, and then seemed surprised Sampa had a cure...what the hell gives?

(Oh, and Morgana--when allies beat each other down? Just another one of my bulletproof kinks. No, I know it's not healthy. But Sex & Violence for the win)


Amy - Oct 23, 2010 5:18:10 am PDT #15169 of 30002
Because books.

I'm left wondering about Sam, Dean, Sampa, Lisa, and Ben.

The sort of role reversal with Sam and Sampa was really unexpected and confusing (and intriguing).

I think they rushed the phone call/voicemail with Lisa, though, because I wasn't clear what actually happened there. Did he want to leave her a message and then changed his mind? If he just fails to show up again after the appearance with the blood lust, I'm sure (in my head anyway) Lisa wouldn't let it stand at that.


Calli - Oct 23, 2010 5:27:35 am PDT #15170 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

So if Sam stood and watched, and then seemed all anxious to get the vamp off Dean, seemed firm that he wouldn't kill Dean, and then seemed surprised Sampa had a cure...what the hell gives?

Maybe Sam (or whoever or whatever is controlling or faking Sam) had another way to de-vamp Dean, one that would force Dean to align himself with whatever is making Sam all wrong. Sort of like setting Dean up to make a cross-roads deal, only, I hope, with something other than exactly that, as it's been so very done in this show.


ehab - Oct 23, 2010 5:28:54 am PDT #15171 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Sam's reaction was more than surprise. It almost sounded like ... unhappy surprise.

But, he knew about the cure. I think he let Dean get vamped to get information with the knowledge he'd be cured.

I think Sam's in "by any means necessary" mode.

I didn't love the episode, the Twilight mocking was not nearly mock-y enough for me. I am not a fan of a vampire "cure" either, and therefore not a fan of Dean getting turned.

I liked the complications with Lisa and Ben, this is when the family-dynamic gets interesting. How do you keep Dean in your life, Vamp Dean aside? You're asking to get hurt.

I'm glad the Sam reveal is soon, Jared's Sam is so cold it's creepy. I love that Sampa glommed onto it too. I hope he shares his fears with Dean or vice versa.

Dean in the nest was awesome. Bride-epic, a trail of headless bodies.

Okay maybe I liked it more than I thought.

ETA: How creepy was it when Dean was standing watching Lisa sleep shortly after calling it out as a "rapey" thing to do. Which what?


Amy - Oct 23, 2010 5:34:53 am PDT #15172 of 30002
Because books.

How creepy was it when Dean was standing watching Lisa sleep shortly after calling it out as a "rapey" thing to do. Which what?

I think that was on purpose. My favorite, though, was the outrage: "This is a national bestseller!" Bwah.

I think they did a good job of contrasting the girls' (or boys') romanticizing of the vamp aesthetic with the grittier (and bloodier) truth, too. The dream thing was stylistically a little weird (for SPN anyway) but very cool.

I also loved the shot of Dean sitting, head down, that pulls back slowly to reveal the head of the alpha under his boot.

I don't, however, ever want to see Dean with that mouthful of teeth again, though. I hate SPN's vampire teeth. So scary and icky.


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2010 5:39:45 am PDT #15173 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

shortly after calling it out as a "rapey" thing to do. Which what?

It's totally a Cas thing to do.

I also loved the shot of Dean sitting, head down, that pulls back slowly to reveal the head of the alpha under his boot.

Oh, baby boy was badass and scary. Mnnf. The whole thing resonated with a fic I recently read that I won't name because it would be spoilery for it, but Julie knows the one.

I'm reading the Fight Club fusion, and it's interesting, but I didn't like Fight Club much, and I don't remember it well. So I'm adrift about the characterisation. I don't think that in a fusion the characters need to be 100% SPN (FUSION, people), but I can't work out what's accurate and what's sloppy.


ehab - Oct 23, 2010 5:55:52 am PDT #15174 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

...I didn't like Fight Club much, and I don't remember it well

I see the words I just cannot make sense of them. Tyler Durden remains one of my favorite all time movie characters and so wonderfully quotable. I am Jack's state of confusion!

I also loved the shot of Dean sitting, head down, that pulls back slowly to reveal the head of the alpha under his boot.

Awesome shot, but I don't think that was the alpha. He's still out there building a vamp army.


Amy - Oct 23, 2010 5:59:57 am PDT #15175 of 30002
Because books.

Awesome shot, but I don't think that was the alpha.

I meant whoever turned him. That guy!

Tyler Durden remains one of my favorite all time movie characters and so wonderfully quotable. I am Jack's state of confusion!

Right there with you.


ehab - Oct 23, 2010 6:05:20 am PDT #15176 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I meant whoever turned him. That guy!

That guy was great! I loved how fearless the actor was about invading Jensen's personal space. The tight shots creeped me out on a visceral level.