Oh, also John had actual military training in not breaking during torture. Or I assume that as a former marine he had some.
Kaylee: Can I? Zoe: Sure. He's out, though. Kaylee: He did this for me, once.
'Safe'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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sumi - Mar 24, 2009 6:50:57 am PDT #1503 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!
Ailleann - Mar 24, 2009 8:51:52 am PDT #1504 of 30002
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You know, I was just pondering... when did we get to a point where we take everything that demons say as The Truth? And by we, I think I really mean Sam and Dean, but I also did not even have the thought that Alastair was lying until I read it in here. How have we negotiated ourselves to a point where we/Sam and Dean are just taking whatever a demon (reminder: evil!) at face value.
(I know why Dean believes, because Dean likes to torture himself. (It's why he was so good in Hell.))
sumi - Mar 24, 2009 9:14:56 am PDT #1505 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!
Well, I don't believe what Alastair said about John. . . and I have some doubts about what Castiel confirmed because he may have received the information from Uriel who had ulterior motives.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 24, 2009 9:33:50 am PDT #1506 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
There is the fact that John and Dean both ended up in Hell via altruistic deals to save the lives of someone they love... I can see how either would be good for breaking the first seal. But I don't think we can trust Alastair's word when he's trying to find the most horrible things to torment Dean with.
One thing I credit Heyerdahl's performance for: despite the spoken emphasis on repeated bodily harm, he made it pretty clear that physical pain means nothing to demons and that it's the psychological torture that they're really all about down below regardless of the racks and so forth. The writing has been a little too face value about what actually goes on in Hell, but the actor saved it for me.
tiggy - Mar 24, 2009 11:04:22 am PDT #1507 of 30002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
[link] - SPN opening sequence set to music/style of Chuck.
Polter-Cow - Mar 24, 2009 11:18:22 am PDT #1508 of 30002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
That was awesome. Thanks.
Morgana - Mar 24, 2009 11:34:46 am PDT #1509 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Wow, all of you were much more satisfied with Heyerdahl that I was... that voice in and of itself was enough to throw me out of the scenes. It seemed so overdone, overemphasized, and blatantly exaggerated that I couldn't focus on anything else. Obviously, YAlistairMMV.
SailAweigh - Mar 24, 2009 3:32:03 pm PDT #1510 of 30002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I had the same problem, Morgana. It was focusing on Dean/JA that allowed me to get through the scenes and relate to them somehow.
Theresa - Mar 24, 2009 3:58:09 pm PDT #1511 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
You know, I was just pondering... when did we get to a point where we take everything that demons say as The Truth?
Pre-xactly! Pfft, even if the demons only lie as much as Sam does, they would have a whole bunch of wiggle room.
Lee - Mar 24, 2009 4:15:39 pm PDT #1512 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
[link] - SPN opening sequence set to music/style of Chuck.
That was fun! It amuses me that they changed the order so JA comes first in the cast list.