See, I'm not on board with the Alistair-Lied brigade, because so far on the show, the most painful things the demons have said have always been the truth. The truth twisted to be as awful as possible, but the truth. So, yeah, John lasted 100 years, and it was AWFUL. But the truth of that is a weapon against Dean now, when it wouldn't have been before, which is why Alistair didn't tell him before.
Also: yay fic by Plei!
It is at least possible that John could hold out longer than Dean. John had, as far as we know, a fairly normal childhood and adolescence. He had a hard time in Vietnam, and then a happy marriage until he lost his wife. He did not have the misfortune to have hunter!John as a father. So of course Dean did not have the internal resources John had.
Ugh. Finally came up with a title.
My writer skills, they are rusty. 700 words shouldn't be so hard. Anyhoo.
John the hunter was always more stubborn than his son.
So of course Dean did not have the internal resources John had.
Partly because he didn't have the huge red button entitled "Daddy issues - push here!" emblazoned on his weaknesses like Dean does.
Partly because he didn't have the huge red button entitled "Daddy issues - push here!" emblazoned on his weaknesses like Dean does.
Because Dean had John for a father! And John didn't.
Why isn't there fanfic about this?
I avidly support (1) the notion of DB Woodside appearing on Show in any capacity, but most especially in a have-sex-with-Dean capacity. Maybe with Dean
and
Castiel. And Sam. And...Ngah...(2) the notion of fanfic pertaining to the above, possibly with Robin Wood in a crossover.
In conclusion, I should like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Alternatively, that might just have to go on the list of fics-I=need-to-write-after-finishing-the-current-surprisingly-long-SPN-story. Because - the hotness!
Fay, stop breaking me like that! Good heavens, woman.
Oh, also John had actual military training in not breaking during torture. Or I assume that as a former marine he had some.
You know, I was just pondering... when did we get to a point where we take everything that demons say as The Truth? And by we, I think I really mean Sam and Dean, but I also did not even have the thought that Alastair was lying until I read it in here. How have we negotiated ourselves to a point where we/Sam and Dean are just taking whatever a demon (reminder: evil!) at face value.
(I know why Dean believes, because Dean likes to torture himself. (It's why he was so good in Hell.))
Well, I don't believe what Alastair said about John. . . and I have some doubts about what Castiel confirmed because he may have received the information from Uriel who had ulterior motives.