I find it difficult to textually render how involuntarily queasy I feel about an angel having sex with a human. It's like discussing Wincest.
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Beverly - Oct 04, 2010 12:19:48 pm PDT #14607 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
§ ita § - Oct 04, 2010 12:35:00 pm PDT #14608 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did it put you off when they made it canon? I mean, sure, the Bible went there first, but still.
Beverly - Oct 04, 2010 12:53:02 pm PDT #14609 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Anna wasn't an angel--well, she wasn't all graced-up---when she had sex with Dean. Jimmy wasn't angel-ridden during his marriage pre-Castiel. What SPN-specific canonical angel/human pairing do you mean? I don't read eyefucking as canon, either D/S, S/D, or D/C.
Laga - Oct 04, 2010 12:53:29 pm PDT #14610 of 30002
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Was Anna an angel for the backseat romp? I thought she hadn't found her grace yet.
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§ ita § - Oct 04, 2010 12:55:09 pm PDT #14611 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I suppose it's possible Gabriel never had sex with a woman, but it's a lot of work for me to read the text that way.
Amy - Oct 04, 2010 12:55:51 pm PDT #14612 of 30002
Because books.
But she knew she'd been an angel, and remembered her existence as an angel, so I'm not really seeing the difference.
In this 'verse, they've certainly shown angels to be just as prone to human foibles as humans are (namely jealousy, rage, revenge, petty violence, ambition, among others), so they don't really seem otherworldly to me in that sense at all.
Juliebird - Oct 04, 2010 1:00:58 pm PDT #14613 of 30002
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The only issue I see is the sloppy way they've handled the vessel issue. Anna was the sole occupant of her human body. Gabe... who knows who his vessel was, and even if the wimmin he'd been screwing around with were willing humans, whammied, or false constructs, he still was a highly sexual being (I don't think it was all just show).
Beverly - Oct 04, 2010 1:01:33 pm PDT #14614 of 30002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Pffft. Gabriel was in disguise. I never gave him serious consideration as an angel till Hammer of the Gods. God/human I have much less trouble with as a concept. Angels have always been asexual in my thinking. They'd have to lose their angelosity to gain the equipment to do the job.
Sort of like the Little Mermaid.
§ ita § - Oct 04, 2010 1:03:47 pm PDT #14615 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I never gave him serious consideration as an angel till Hammer of the Gods.
You ignored Changing Channels? And didn't even flash back to his total randiness in Tall Tales?
I mean, I understand that the concept is quease-making on a level of incest for you, but unlike incest, Show seems to accept it just fine. Castiel just said he'd not wanted to have sex, not that it was outrageous for an angel, and Gabriel was pretty obsessed with it.
Amy - Oct 04, 2010 1:15:40 pm PDT #14616 of 30002
Because books.
Angels have always been asexual in my thinking.
Bu they have been petty, mean, vengeful, and selfish? I guess I just don't get drawing the line at sex. An expression of love and/or pleasure seems a lot less dubious to me than an angel who wants to move up the chain of command, for instance, and is willing to sacrifice billions of human lives to do it.