I'd be surprised if Castiel is more than a source of friction for the boys. And I don't necessarily mean porn. I wonder how fandom would deal with him flipping entirely to the Heaven-doesn't-care-for-Winchester side. I see him more on the better-things-to-do side. He'll deign to have time for them. His fond moments with the abomination or Chastity will be long gone.

Yeah, not a prediction. Just a passing thought. But he'd manipulate Sam & Dean and let the end justify the means if he thought that was the only way to save either the world or a substantial subset. Don't think Show will go there, but maybe I'll put in on my list of plot bunnies I probably won't get to.

one thing, Sam wasn't in the room to overhear the mentions of "father/our father", unless he hung outside the door for a full minute before coming to the rescue.

Yeah, I wondered about that too. It seemed like they were pushing the "Dean looks at Sam suspiciously" button a little hard there.

There were two Campbells at the gate allowing the boys to drive into their compound with the baby. I assume they're the other two killed by AlphaShifter.

Do not like the Campbells. Do NOT like Gwen Campbell. It makes me wonder what made Mary want to leave hunting.

I hope Sam is being kept in the dark about what Gramps is up to. And I think Gramps knows a bit more about why he and Sam are back than what's been told. (As an aside, I'll bet money all the Campbells we've seen were dead and then resurrected.)

Echoing the Lisa love. Sure, there's still room for dire things to happen to her and Ben later in the season, but I'm so glad they were able to get Dean back hunting with Sam without fridging or turning her into a bitca.

I'm not surprised to see Dean being pretty good with kids. And I'm not taking points off for yelling at Ben when Ben got into the guns. There was a whole bit showing that Dean made a solid effort to keep the Impala guns locked away. (I'd be less forgiving if Ben had been messing with the gun under the bed.) Finding a kid within seconds of possibly blowing his brains out can justify some yelling.

Still, Sam's surprise at Dean's dad skills was a little odd. Didn't we have several flashbacks where Dean was left alone taking care of Sam?

Anyway, I'm glad we have Metallicar back in play, and Dean back with Sam, on the road.

I hope Sam is being kept in the dark about what Gramps is up to.

Which is an odd dynamic, since Samuel keeps looking to Sam for permissions wrt Dean. I mean, it makes some sense, since they want to make Sam feel in control (Rather than getting the creeped-out feeling that Dean is), but, at the same time, if he doesn't know who Samuel is taking orders from, and if he's still, you know, Sam, he should be pushing more to figure out what happened, dammit.

Todd suggested a "what's up with the critters acting weird", that they're being possessed. The shifter's "That's for my father." would make sense in that case, as YED or Lucifer, instead of the shifter from previous seasons.

one thing, Sam wasn't in the room to overhear the mentions of "father/our father", unless he hung outside the door for a full minute before coming to the rescue.

There seemed to have been a number of director errors. I wonder who it was?

Echoing all the continuing Lisa love, though I think she's more than a little nuts to accommodate Dean's life style. I found myself hoping they could make it work. I'm quite sure the Campbells are part of the big bad this year, but I also think show has cleverly set up an alternative to Lisa so onerous that she might become palatable to those who wish her dead.

In somewhat surprising to myself news, I find myself liking softer dad Dean and hoping he can juggle hunting and home. I like it because it represents growth and actively making choices not to be his father's kind of father.

Sam I'm just concerned about. He's not right. They all seem brain-washed in some way.

My one potentially unpopular declaration: I hope they never attempt another Sam & Dean & baby episode again. I found the Raising Arizona cheesiness horrifying. There was nothing funny to me about the baby in the back seat or the dirty diaper jokes or the shopping for baby gear. My ovaries were unmoved.

Sam I'm just concerned about. He's not right. They all seem brain-washed in some way.

Yep. Even Gramps said, "Sometimes I wonder about you, Sam." To which Sam replied, "Sometimes I wonder about me, too."

I hope they never attempt another Sam & Dean & baby episode again.

The baby smiled and my ovaries twinged at that and Dean with the finger of whiskey was hilarious, but I'm with you, ehab. I'm content not to see this kind of storyline again.

I'll repeat what Bev said last week, Jared looks much better when he's not doing the Mr. Universe thing.

Writer was Adam Glass (first time on spn), director was John F. Showalter. He also directed Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid.

Someone upthread (apologies!) mentioned that they were irked at the reveal of the baby, and I was wondering about this watching it, what all the subterfuge was, since I thought it was obvious that it was a baby. And maybe I thought it was obvious because of the promo, or the sneak peak, or the spoilers I saw, or the title that came up on my channel guide. Others completely out of the loop for all of these things can maybe say otherwise. But maybe, I was thinking, the hilarity was supposed to be in actually knowing the entire time that they were discussing a spawn.

Speaking of which, the metal teeth chomp dun Dun DUN! music at the baby's reveal was hysterical.

First DCBB is here!

tomato omelet with hollandaise:

Not saying it is great, but just like with real parents, better emotionally than never seeing them

That makes sense to me. I still worry what happens when Lisa falls in love with someone [else]. Someone else who wants to be a dad to Ben. I don't think Show would go that messy domestically dramatic a route when it's not about Sam and Dean.

Was it here that someone mentioned Christian and Cas being good together? How?