I second what Bev said, especially this

I want Dean to have a chance to make his own choices

Because damn is everybody in his face about how he ought to live his life or mocking him. Except for Lisa, who's all "I don't regret you being in mine, please don't sully that."

I am also mucho curious how Cas fits back in, and what that reunion will look like (I want hugs or something, maybe even a punch to the face, something passionate).

Maybe now we are seeing why Mary never let John meet anyone from her side of the family. Yeesh.

Bobby, I am the least preterbed with of all. I really believed him when he said, "it meant not getting your guts ripped out at thirty." I think as a father figure to the boys this is a real concern for him. He couldn't do anything for Sam, but here was an opportunity with Dean and he took it. I completely understand his part in the silence and that one sentence from him made me forgive all.

random aside: The thing that bugs me about the golf clubs is that it's become such a blue collar sport/past-time in the past decade or so. But I think the short hand used in show was mocking the more old-school snobbery and country-clubness that surrounds it. But all my budlite-swilling, flannel-wearing, minimum-wage dudes play it.

Golf is fun!

Golf is fun if there are windmills and model dinosaurs involved.

And Theresa is me, WRT why Mary kept her new family away from his extended family. Me, I'm thinking that a good chunk of what's different with Sam is due to Campbell influence.

I saw more "Sam" this time through, but got the impression he's trying really hard to maintain a balance

yay for rewatches and new takes! I can't believe how pissed I was at Sam the first viewing, and how much I turned around with mulling and a rewatch.

hates the mini-golf. Hates its.

Yesterday I asked my mom if she liked mini golf and you would think I asked her if she liked stomping puppies.

Because damn is everybody in his face about how he ought to live his life or mocking him. Except for Lisa, who's all "I don't regret you being in mine, please don't sully that."

Uh, Lisa totally hit his weak spot and guilted him into staying. I don't think Dean is capable of making a decision on his own. He's just pulled by the strongest need, and Ben is currently that. Lisa totally played on that, although completely sincerely.

Sam was also sincere.

Sampa is the tool of evol.

I think the short hand used in show was mocking the more old-school snobbery and country-clubness that surrounds it

I think the shorthand was looking down on leisure pursuits especially where you can't hustle.

hugs mini-golf protectively, cries

I think the shorthand was looking down on leisure pursuits especially where you can't hustle.

That was the impression I got. Also, given that it was Sam doing the mocking on that point, the mocking felt more to me like teasing than what we got from the scary female Campbell.

As for fic, I'm mostly steering clear at the moment. A lot of it looks (IMO) like people doing post-ep processing and venting.