D scared me by wondering if the show felt different because Sera is trying to take it in a different direction. Earlier yesterday I had said, "wouldn't it be awful if they introduce a female character with agency and she ends up somehow ruining things." I really was joking.

After the show was over we joined in a drinking game with our housemates. D got more wasted than I think I have ever seen him. Today he says he was mourning for the show. Oh man, it wasn't that bad, was it?

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I think the title cards could use less sparkle? But maybe that's a lead up to a gag? --are ep titles really spoilery?

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Episode titles are spoilery, so Laga, you need to delete.

"wouldn't it be awful if they introduce a female character with agency and she ends up somehow ruining things." I really was joking.

I really don't get that. I've probably been the loudest complainer about Dean/Lisa here, and I totally don't get that. But I also don't see why someone would drink to mourn a show, so it's possibly I'm actually underinvested. I didn't see anything like the end of an era here, and I'm oddly offended at the sentiment that it might have to do with gender.

Hey, maybe not that underinvested after all.

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The things I didn't like about the episode had nothing to do with Lisa. But when Dean ran back to the house and Lisa & Ben were missing I had a brief horrified moment when I thought, "o god they're in the refrigerator." But the show I love is Sam & Dean & the family business. Killing off Dean's adopted family is one way to get back there. Sometimes my appetite for entertainment doesn't align well with my feminism.

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Killing off Dean's adopted family is one way to get back there. Sometimes my appetite for entertainment doesn't align well with my feminism.

That would work, except then Dean would spend the rest of the season dealing with grief and guilt and really, the man's been coping with enough. I know everyone likes watching angsty Dean but that would be overload, I think.

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I dig the man pain but I think Dean will have man pain no matter what happens to him.

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I think what I still don't like about the ep was the repeated "I wanted this life for you, you promised me, I stayed away so you could have it/I didn't tell you so you could have it*, now give it up!" and the overkill of the mockery from the Campbells. Were we being shown that the Campbells are mean unfriendly people, or was it more a matter of showcasing how different Dean's world was from theirs and how his used to be?

And while I giggled at the reminder that gramps has only been in modern times for a year (soccer moms, intranet), his diss about the golf clubs was completely incongruent. Dean's not golfing during a hunt, or going to a barbeque during the hunt, or any other domestic civilian things.

*still not getting how Dean knowing Sam was alive precludes him from continuing his life with Lisa. I mean, I get the assumption that their is the possibility that would take up hunting full time, but I don't see it as a given. And if they thought that Lisa and Ben were so important to Dean, even if, and especially if, for their own peace of mind, then they could simply have Sam refuse to hunt with Dean, or say that he's not hunting, I dunno.

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I guess Sam figured that he couldn't be back in Dean's life without Dean becoming awawe of how much shit was going down. But still, if there's a war on, don't you want your best soldier in the fight?

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still not getting how Dean knowing Sam was alive precludes him from continuing his life with Lisa

Because Dean's an obsessive bastard and his obsession centres almost entirely around his brother? Because it was only when Lisa said "I need you to be a parent to Ben" (his Sam substitute) that he reconsidered leaving?

I think in that, they knew him well. He would have left. He knows he would have left. They didn't consider that he might have preferred to have left.

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