Buffy: You tossed that vamp like he was a... little teeny vamp. Riley: You wanna go again? C'mon. I bet this place is just teeming with aerodynamic vampires.

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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Sep 02, 2010 6:45:14 am PDT #13276 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

SPN needs more black leather, I think.

Out of a perverse curiosity I clicked on a Dean/Castiel/Sam fic to see how they handled the psychology of it (I have no interest in but can parse D/C/S where there is no real D/S, so I'm curious to know if it's being written). In this fic, Dean has a shitfit at the idea of sharing Cas with Sam, but no problem sleeping with his brother. This, people, is why our fandom has a rep. You make such a point of Dean having this one problem, and don't deal with him screwing Sam?

However, every time I see people saying "I'd watch the show but..." or "I'd get into the fandom, but..." and cite incest and crazy as the reason, damn, people, get over it. Read what you want to read, talk to who you want to talk to about what you want to talk about. Outside of the people who don't warn (bad people! bad, bad people!), you get to make your own rules.

Okay, if you are into het, things might be a bit slow going. But other than that.

watching the sex scene in Heart will never, ever get old

I will sign the petition for more JP sex scenes. Please, lord, please.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 02, 2010 7:07:29 am PDT #13277 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Watching Hollywood Babylon makes me think that is what Dean should be doing post-Swan Song, not trying to build a picket fence life with a one-night-stand who had his spirit baby. (I'm assuming Ben isn't actually Dean's child, or it would have been much easier for Michael to convince him to serve as a vessel instead of resurrecting Adam from the dead.)


Amy - Sep 02, 2010 7:11:33 am PDT #13278 of 30002
Because books.

That meaning what, Matt?

Okay, if you are into het, things might be a bit slow going.

God, so true. And I'm really not interested in het when it's Ruby or Bela, either.


§ ita § - Sep 02, 2010 7:13:09 am PDT #13279 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There are so many things Dean could be doing. He can run a sales and marketing department, build an EMF out of a Walkman, become an adept PA in a day, rebuild a car from a battered shell...the idea that his apple pie life needs an insta wife'n'kid is depressingly heteronormative. What he should be doing with his everyday is totally important too.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 02, 2010 7:21:01 am PDT #13280 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The PA gig. He seemed to enjoy that with a childlike glee, and apparently fit in on that movie set almost instantly.

Plus, if he can't be making out with Castiel, I prefer Tara Benchley to Lisa as an alternative.


Amy - Sep 02, 2010 7:27:14 am PDT #13281 of 30002
Because books.

the idea that his apple pie life needs an insta wife'n'kid is depressingly heteronormative. What he should be doing with his everyday is totally important too.

It's odd that Sam wanted that for him. I mean, I could see him wanting Dean to find someone to love, and I know he knew Dean was fascinated by Ben (and the idea of being a dad), but thrusting him from years of horror and apocalyptic battles into a picket fence life seems incredibly short-sighted.

But I think he was clinging to what he thought Dean wanted, or has wanted, and looking for a way to shorthand it.


DebetEsse - Sep 02, 2010 7:32:59 am PDT #13282 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Hell, I don't trust Kripke with Thessaly, Barbara, etc, etc, etc. Choose your female character.

I have said since I read the book that American Gods should be an HBO miniseries. I could see doing Sandman that way, or as a close-ended series-series, but, yeah, I don't think Kripke is the guy.

Now, if someone wanted to make a Hellblazer series? That's Kripke's thing.

I think Edlund would rock an adaptation of Good Omens (apart from the British-ness, I suppose).

I'm trying to think of who I would trust to do a good Sandman, and the only person I can think of is Guillermo del Toro.


§ ita § - Sep 02, 2010 7:42:34 am PDT #13283 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kripke managed a good Ellen, improved Jo, decent Ruby (at least 1.0), Tamara, decent Pamela, great Mary, rocking Missouri.

That's not why I'd count him out.


DebetEsse - Sep 02, 2010 7:55:06 am PDT #13284 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I see your point, ita. He can pull off good female characters.

At the same time, though, I worry that he would exacerbate the changes that happen when page characters move to screen (e.g.--my standing Hermione rant) that women should be hot and, if not victimy, then literally kickers of ass.

Now I'm picturing my ideal adaptation, and I think I want the Creature Shop involved.


§ ita § - Sep 02, 2010 7:59:58 am PDT #13285 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think whoever does it, we're going to get hot. That's standard comic adaptation. I don't know who I'd pick, honestly. I think Kripke's a decent start. We know he's Vertigo-sympathetic. It's something.

Someone on another board does a photo treasure hunt every day. I've been amusing myself coming up with something SPN-related for every prompt. It's sadly easy. "Leaning"--Dean against the car in Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid. "Coffee"--"Your half-caf, double vanilla latte is getting cold over here, Francis" screenshot. "Puppies"--JP with that dog with the legs in a cart...it's really kind of sad how many related pictures I can think of easily.