Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Aug 13, 2010 9:05:10 am PDT #12612 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I want the boys together on the road forever. Cas can be in the backseat. I don't want either of them in a relationship with anyone not hunting with them.

I realise this makes me look like some of the hatering factions of the fandom, but...I like them unhealthily wrapped up in each other, and become quickly dissociated from the story when they can spend too much functional time away from each other, including building relationships that aren't in some way emotional threesomes.

But if Sam gets a woman we've seen before, it's definitely Sarah.

There are no women for Dean.

God, I sound so crazy.


P.M. Marc - Aug 13, 2010 9:08:52 am PDT #12613 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think I'm the only person who doesn't really like Sarah. She was just sort of meh for me. I tried! I did! But...

Meh.

::ducks rotten fruit::


Amy - Aug 13, 2010 9:08:54 am PDT #12614 of 30002
Because books.

It's funny, because even writing that I thought ... I wonder if that's what Sam would want. Like, I want someone to provide Dean with a kid he can be cute with, but that's really just for me.

And I'm not sure anymore that Sam would be content to settle down.

But I, uh, realize they're not actually real people, so.

We might need a crazy bench.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2010 9:14:38 am PDT #12615 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

One of the things I've made up to be upset about S6 (I don't know if there's room on the crazy bench for any of you) is Lisa. I *so* don't want Dean to be in love with her and maintain a relationship throughout the season with her. But I've decided it's going to happen.

It's not who that character is to me. It's not what makes him appealing. His inability to do that attracts me.

Why have I decided to upset myself plotwise? Not entirely sure.


Amy - Aug 13, 2010 9:16:25 am PDT #12616 of 30002
Because books.

Why have I decided to upset myself plotwise? Not entirely sure.

Because then if it doesn't happen, you'll be pleasantly surprised?

Do you feel the same way about him having a relationship with Cas?


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2010 9:20:26 am PDT #12617 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Do you feel the same way about him having a relationship with Cas?

It seems unfair to Lisa for him to have a conflicted or angsty relationship with her, especially because of Ben.

Cas, however, is rife with potential for continued unconventionallness.

Curtainfic, with whoever, is completely uninteresting to me. That's not my Dean. I like him nomadic, I like him in a push and pull. I like him in a dynamic that Lisa just shouldn't really be putting up with. Lisa doesn't need to effectively date Sam too. It's totally required in my D/C.

It's not "a relationship" that's the problem.

I guess I'm saying that Lisa deserves better and Cas doesn't.

Sorry, dude.

Not that I don't wish the couple happiness. Just not settled mother of a child happiness.


Amy - Aug 13, 2010 9:25:32 am PDT #12618 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, I get what you mean about Lisa. But when you said Dean wasn't able to *do* a relationship functionally, I thought you meant emotionally.

I think with Cas, on the road, he would do fine. Well, fine with qualifications. I think Dean is always going to do relationships fairly dysfunctionally. But I think he would be willing to try, for the person he really loves.

I think Dean might have thought at one point that he wanted that house and life, but I don't think he would actually be very happy attempting it. And his Djinn dream was a different thing -- his happiness there was all rooted in Mary's happiness, his childhood home intact, which is a different thing.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2010 9:29:37 am PDT #12619 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The relationship I envision on the road and still needing Sam with him isn't properly functional. It's decent, and he can be happy, but not just "My brother comes first" but "Love my brother like you love me except the nookie part" is pretty much in my relationship definition for him.

Also, continued fragmented self-esteem and associated urges to sacrifice himself and all those lovely little things that Cas can totally handle and Lisa has better things to do than to deal with--I don't want them to go away.

I don't think he would actually be very happy attempting it.

Yeah. I'm realising that's pretty important to my vision of the character, and why I avoid so much Dean/Lisa fic (but I feel guilty reading Dean/Lisa Dean/Castiel, because it's like championing homewrecking).


Amy - Aug 13, 2010 9:32:29 am PDT #12620 of 30002
Because books.

The relationship I envision on the road and still needing Sam with him isn't properly functional. It's decent, and he can be happy, but not just "My brother comes first" but "Love my brother like you love me except the nookie part" is pretty much in my relationship definition for him.

I think my only problem with that is that parity thing. I don't know if Sam would be happy never having someone in his life, not just for nookie but for a kind of intimacy and comfort he had with Jess, and probably Ruby to some twisted extent. So that seems a little unfair to him.

But! Not real people. I need to keep that in mind more. Or ever.


§ ita § - Aug 13, 2010 9:34:26 am PDT #12621 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So that seems a little unfair to him.

Gabriel!

Okay, no. Honestly, I don't need Dean to be involved with Cas. I'm just willing to allow that much. My main requirement is Sam in the passenger seat.

I am so not in it for their ultimate emotional health and fulfillment.