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Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


P.M. Marc - Aug 09, 2010 8:22:23 am PDT #12500 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I've gotten to the point where all the constant eyerolling in fic is bothering me, as blue collar guys don't often show exasperation that way in my experience, in contrast to sarcastic teens and women with humanities degrees.

Sam's an eyeroller. Dean, not so much. He does more of the raised brow are-you-kidding-me face.


Juliebird - Aug 09, 2010 8:37:28 am PDT #12501 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I've also read a lot of "he made a gagging noise" as either brother mocks the other, which always sends me to that scene in The Goonies with Chunk telling his story about the movie theatre. Needless to say, it pulls me right out of the story.


Calli - Aug 09, 2010 8:53:35 am PDT #12502 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

SGA's Sheppard canonically does a fair bit of young-seeming things. There are scenes of him playing with toy cars, debating Bat villains, pushing coworkers off of balconies, etc. His quarters were furnished in minimalist college student: musician poster, guitar, novel. I can see where the 13-year-old in a 40-something body fanon comes from.

Dean, not so much. While he likes his pop culture riffs, he seems to unwind by drinking, watching medical soaps, and getting laid, not setting up an RC car obstacle course with Sam.

Both men have dangerous full-time+ jobs that require adult concentration and judgment. But on the off hours, their attitudes seem pretty different.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2010 9:09:48 am PDT #12503 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Dean does actually claim to be Batman. I don't think calling him a teenager in an adult body is at all far-fetched. He may be post-pubescent (cf: porn consumption, masturbation), but still pretty boyish in his downtime.

Or maybe I'm judging adult male pastimes like prank wars and stuffing your face with food as being boyish.

Although I might limit it to the first two.

Startled!Sam giggling makes me want to giggle. I'm totally pro it. Dean, not as much.


Amy - Aug 09, 2010 9:14:59 am PDT #12504 of 30002
Because books.

He may be post-pubescent (cf: porn consumption, masturbation), but still pretty boyish in his downtime.

He does like whoopee cushions and daring (and double-daring) Sam to drink gross stuff. I think Dean's got a ten-year-old boy in there who didn't ever really get to play. He would probably be psyched to set up some RC car races.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2010 9:58:57 am PDT #12505 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Dean's got a ten-year-old boy in there who didn't ever really get to play

That's exactly how I view it. He's got a continual low-level indulgence going on of something he never got to do at the time.


Calli - Aug 09, 2010 10:00:58 am PDT #12506 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Hmmm. I see your point about the prank wars and face stuffing. Although we haven't seen much of that since season 2. I saw that sort of thing as remnants of his childhood relationship with Sam. With the Hell House prank war, didn't Sam refer to that as something they use to do?

Dean would probably be the better for a dozen afternoons of RC car races, but I'd mostly see him doing that in the context of caring for Ben.

When was the woopie cushion?


Amy - Aug 09, 2010 10:20:53 am PDT #12507 of 30002
Because books.

The whoopee cushion was in I Believe the Children Are Our Future, this past season -- the one with the kid, Jesse. He bought it and Cas ended up sitting on it. Heh.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2010 11:36:44 am PDT #12508 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From that episode:

SAM Okay, so whatever's doing this is—is reshaping reality. It has the powers of a god. Or—

SAM rolls his eyes.

SAM —of a trickster.

DEAN Yeah, with the sense of humor of a nine-year-old.

SAM Or you.

So, at the very least, S5 Sam rolls his eyes, and S5 Sam thinks Dean has a juvenile sense of humour.

The rest of his personality (okay, minus the self-esteem issues and the compulsion towards heroism) is what was made illegal in Blue Earth in 99 Problems, and are probably vices in which Sheppard would also indulge.

But I've always seen McKay as more childish anyway.

t /tangent


Calli - Aug 09, 2010 11:38:38 am PDT #12509 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Hmmm. Looks like The Children Are Our Future pokes a hole in my theory. Oh well.