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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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Morgana - Jul 13, 2010 3:14:34 pm PDT #11805 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I finally managed to read the two stories ita linked yesterday (the cute story and its angsty remix) and I don't think the remix hit me the same way it hit you. (Except maybe Amy, who said:

Especially the end! That ... really came out of nowhere.
Because I can see that maybe I wasn't in the correct frame of mind while I read the story, but what I took from it was Sam was deeply unhappy and had seen nothing but unsuccessful relationships his entire life. For the past year or so he'd been watching Dean continue to fuck his way through the hunter community, which was devastating Castiel. Despite the fact that both Sam and Dean had told Castiel that that was precisely how Dean was going to behave. So Castiel was unhappy, Dean got exactly what he wanted but he was unhappy too, and Sam was depressed watching them be unhappy. So somehow the sum total of all of Dean and Castiel's dysfunction convinced Sam to say yes to Lucifer? I just kept staring at the screen thinking why? It didn't make any kind of sense to me. One thing didn't connect at all to the other. I'm willing to accept that I may have missed some kind of nuance, but as it is the story was effective for me up until the last line.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2010 3:26:09 pm PDT #11806 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the transition was Ruby and Lucifer presenting himself as Ruby. Oh, and their father. I think Sam gave up on himself and his family.

Yes, that's a very big step to take, it involving more than just the three of you. So while Dean was living a self-fulfilling prophecy and Castiel should have known what was coming, I think Sam figured there was no helping him. It was a bit of a jump, but I didn't think it was as huge as you did. Major depressive episode.


Amy - Jul 13, 2010 3:48:24 pm PDT #11807 of 30002
Because books.

That's exactly what I was thinking, Morgana. I wasn't connecting the dots, and I think it was because she didn't set that up well enough from the start.


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2010 2:24:36 am PDT #11808 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

zombie fic, D/C (haven't read it yet) [link] "Last One Out Hits the Lights"


Juliebird - Jul 14, 2010 2:51:51 am PDT #11809 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

This fic is so WRONG! [link]

"The Angelic Guide to Dream Interpretation"


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2010 5:35:02 am PDT #11810 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I read the clex BB, and eh. Weird. Maybe everything was explained in the bit I skipped, but I doubt it was enough to explain the strange deviations from canon. The initial premise that John and Mary remembered wasn't enough to support the accelerated timeline of the other stuff, and what was up with Sam having seizures? Did he even get fed demon blood? What was with the extra kids at Cold Oak? Why bother? It seemed like it went more AU than just that one point, and although I'm a big AU junkie, I was more looking for an exploration of ramifications of one point in time, not a much larger what if.

And the incest did seem quite pasted on, if it was that skippable. Sam makes only an offhand reference to it afterwards. Though Dean was appropriately obsessed, it seemed fairly brotherly.

I almost liked the Mary, but she did get a bit excessively competent during her pregnancy.


Amy - Jul 14, 2010 5:37:05 am PDT #11811 of 30002
Because books.

That's what I thought -- the concept was too big for the author, and she sort of fumbled and clunked through it. It could have been a decent story, I think, but it really wasn't.


§ ita § - Jul 14, 2010 6:00:35 am PDT #11812 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

From the comments on her post after the story it looked like someone asked her for Wincest. So totally grafted on and not organic.

And, like you said, the ending was a bit anti climactic. Thank you for navigating me around it. I was very curious about the execution.


Amy - Jul 14, 2010 6:07:06 am PDT #11813 of 30002
Because books.

No problem. I wasn't hopeful, though, because if it had grabbed me I would have gone back to read it carefully instead of skim through for the objectionable bits, and I really wasn't interested.

I would love to see more young Mary stories, though.


ehab - Jul 14, 2010 6:22:46 am PDT #11814 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Work is really interfering with my fic reading. Sigh.