Wesley: And how does your kind define love? Demon: Same as all bodies. Same as everywheres. Love is sacrifice.

'The Girl in Question'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

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§ ita § - Jun 18, 2010 2:26:19 pm PDT #10973 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I meant the Donna Noble people, not the list people.

You're a Who!virgin? Hmmm. You should at least try out a little Captain Jack. He's very tasty and versatile.


Cass - Jun 18, 2010 2:31:35 pm PDT #10974 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

IO9 ranks John as one of the best SFF fathers.

I was full of blinky disbelief until the writer noted they'd never seen any SPN. Based on the simplified description they were given, I see it. Based on everything we've seen and heard, it's more than just slightly complicated. And I like John. A lot.


Amy - Jun 18, 2010 2:34:44 pm PDT #10975 of 30002
Because books.

I haven't read the list, but I know seeing John mentioned as part of it surprised me.

I think in terms of love alone, he was a good father. He did love the boys, fiercely, but his love for them was always colored by his need to train them to protect themselves and to take up this mantle of vengeance and do-gooding. Which ... is not so good. Especially not when it actually involves putting them in danger, and a level of benign neglect that child services is going to raise an eyebrow at.

And yet, I know what drove him. So I love him ... but I don't know if I'd call him a *good* dad.


Lee - Jun 18, 2010 2:35:24 pm PDT #10976 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

little Captain Jack.

Oddly, I have seen all of Torchwood.

Just not Dr Who.


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2010 2:37:13 pm PDT #10977 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Just not Dr Who.

Jack's very different in Doctor Who. Still in character, but you can tell his crush is strong, because he presents a much subbier face. It's worth a try, if you have viewing time.


Lee - Jun 18, 2010 2:43:40 pm PDT #10978 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

It's on my netflix queue, but I never seem to make it there.

I will some day!


Laga - Jun 18, 2010 2:46:12 pm PDT #10979 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

You could skip right to "The Empty Child" (and part two, "The Doctor Dances")- it's a good stand-alone two-parter and the introduction to Captain Jack.


Lee - Jun 18, 2010 2:47:10 pm PDT #10980 of 30002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think I am too much of a completist for that, but I will bear it in mind!


Atropa - Jun 18, 2010 2:52:19 pm PDT #10981 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

WALTER! Oh, my heart. Crazy, brilliant Walter. And his pudding pops. And his cow. And his LSD.

I really need to get around to watching Fringe. I've heard so much about Walter from my friends. Usually followed by, "He kinda reminds me of your dad".


Cass - Jun 18, 2010 2:55:53 pm PDT #10982 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I've heard so much about Walter from my friends. Usually followed by, "He kinda reminds me of your dad".

Because it's true.

Walter is awesome.