You know, I just... I woke up, and I looked in the mirror, and I thought, hey, what's with all the sin? I need to change. I'm... I'm dirty. I'm, I'm bad with the... sex and the envy and that, that loud music us kids listen to nowadays.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


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P.M. Marc - Jun 09, 2010 11:26:38 am PDT #10513 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

If you've never wanted to whack Dean with a spoon, you haven't been watching the same show I've been watching. And I love the boy.

We don't differ in wanting to smack him, just in how the smack's delivered.

I disagree. Sam had just beaten the shit out of him, but I don't think he was trying to kill him, otherwise I think he would have done it. He definitely had the upper hand there. He ended the fight by getting up and walking away.

Having been in Dean's physical position with what was at the time a loved one, when the hands are around your throat and squeezing, bluntly, the fact that they stopped before they killed you and got a grip on themselves doesn't stop your gut reaction from being, "You just tried to kill me."

It's a line beyond throwing words or even throwing punches. The physical reaction to the threat was, for me, completely different.

Possibly because I agree so hard with Bobby's sentiment, right down to the boohoo.

I very, very strongly don't. I agree with the fact that sometimes, you've got to buck up and be strong for someone who has hurt you. I don't agree at all with the boo hoo aspects of that quote.


Laga - Jun 09, 2010 11:28:04 am PDT #10514 of 30002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think both boys regularly deserve a good spoon-whacking.


Amy - Jun 09, 2010 11:28:37 am PDT #10515 of 30002
Because books.

We don't differ in wanting to smack him, just in how the smack's delivered.

I'm not sure I should say on a public board how I'd like to deliver the smack.


P.M. Marc - Jun 09, 2010 11:29:12 am PDT #10516 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I guess I could say I'm in favor of the concept, but in that case, not a fan of the execution.

Although I was a big fan of the Castiel/Dean beatdown. So. Err. *Cough*


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2010 11:37:43 am PDT #10517 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We don't differ in wanting to smack him, just in how the smack's delivered.

That was in response to Missouri, not Bobby. Do you have a problem with how she handled him?

doesn't stop your gut reaction from being, "You just tried to kill me."

Hmm. I can see that in some situations, but not this one. I don't think that Dean has/will ever come to terms with why Sam thought he was doing what he was doing, but I'd think he had enough respect for the fact that Sam's a stone killer to know that if Sam truly wanted him dead (especially with the darkside part of things) he'd be dead. Sam wanted him hurt, and Sam wanted his way, and Sam wanted control of the situation, but I truly think Dean was treating the situation like an abandonment, not like a murder attempt.

I was a big fan of the Castiel/Dean beatdown. So. Err. *Cough*

Ohdearlord. That was so many flavours of ... ohdearlord. Just so right.

Sam's correct. I am a bad person.

Sam: What the hell happened to him?
Castiel: Me

ita: ::faints::


P.M. Marc - Jun 09, 2010 11:50:31 am PDT #10518 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

That was in response to Missouri, not Bobby. Do you have a problem with how she handled him?

My bad! Hell no!

Hmm. I can see that in some situations, but not this one. I don't think that Dean has/will ever come to terms with why Sam thought he was doing what he was doing, but I'd think he had enough respect for the fact that Sam's a stone killer to know that if Sam truly wanted him dead (especially with the darkside part of things) he'd be dead. Sam wanted him hurt, and Sam wanted his way, and Sam wanted control of the situation, but I truly think Dean was treating the situation like an abandonment, not like a murder attempt.

Our readings will vary on this one. I don't think he really let himself fully believe in Sam as a stone killer until that moment in the hotel room. That was the break in faith that didn't fully mend until the end of S5. It's actually kind of beautifully structured, now that I think about it.


P.M. Marc - Jun 09, 2010 11:51:08 am PDT #10519 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Ohdearlord. That was so many flavours of ... ohdearlord. Just so right.

Yes, exactly. Knew I forgot something up there.


Theresa - Jun 09, 2010 12:11:18 pm PDT #10520 of 30002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

And this from a woman who refused to evince love for a good 18 years. There's no winning with her.

OMG, I think our mothers are related!

Does she remind you a lot of Emily Gilmore?

I think both boys regularly deserve a good spoon-whacking.

So very very true. Castiel also.


sumi - Jun 09, 2010 12:15:18 pm PDT #10521 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Season 4, Round 3:

Castiel: I'm the one who gripped you tight and raised you from perdition. - Difficult - but seriously - such an excellent intro for Castiel

Dean: Y'know, I finally get why you and Dad butted heads so much. You two are practically the same person. I mean, I worshiped the guy, I dressed like him, I acted like him. I listened to the same music. But you are more like him than I will ever be. And I see that now.
Sam: I'll take that as a compliment.
Dean: You take it any way you want.

Dean: Angel or not, I will stab you in the face.

Bobby: You stupid, stupid son of a bitch! Well, boo hoo! I am so sorry your feelings are hurt, princess! Are you under the impression that family's supposed to make you feel good, make you an apple pie, maybe? They're supposed to make you miserable! That's why they're family!


Amy - Jun 09, 2010 12:15:23 pm PDT #10522 of 30002
Because books.

Castiel also.

Aw, no. I don't think so. He's learning, and it's hard out there for an angel.

He's very much Dean in some ways, blindly loyal to a father who is unknowable and a bit overwhelming as your role model. He's sort of S1 Dean in terms of not getting shades of gray yet. But he's also still figuring out how humans think and feel, and I think he's done a better job than a lot of the other angels would.