I've never been happy with any spoilage that I've done in the 'verse. Which is a damn shame because it's not like I can just not see SPN stuff in the Spoiler or Spoiler Lite thread.

Even ep descriptions and titles are too much for me. I can't bear to go near casting. This show, man...

I am Cass.

Well, I'm not that pretty, but I share her anti-spoiler proclivities.

Except for Supernatural, I am that way too. I guess the only other things that I even come into contact with is guest stars on Leverage. That doesn't spoil me as much as just give me something to smile about.

Not only do I not know what is going to happen on Justified before it airs, usually I end up watching it Wednesday or Thursday. So, I'm like the opposite of spoiled for it. It's out there official, and I still don't know what happened tonight. With that show though, I put off watching it because I like to savor it. You know instead of a snack, you are going to get a great meal. Time needs to be taken.

I figure guest stars on Leverage are people I could conceivably run into on the street. So it's not spoilers, it's being forewarned. Plus that stuff is just fun to know.

I wish SPN were that show for me. It's not.

I want to be able to read casting stuff and ep titles and even descriptions without freaking out like a dork. This is not that show for me though.

I just think Lisa/Dean is problematic and I don't trust Show to resolve it tidily.

Definitely problematic.

I see Dean as honoring Sam's dying wish more so than he's pursuing that normal, apple pie life. This is what Sam wanted for Dean, and Dean's going to do it for Sam.

I'm no Lisa-hater either, but completely apart from this promise, I think Dean's interest in making a family with Lisa had more to do with the possibility that Ben was his, and the paternal instinct Ben drew out in Dean. I don't think Dean would have given Lisa a second thought had there been no Ben. I would not be upset or surprised in the least if there was too much baggage there for Dean and Lisa to work it out. Of course, I hope she and Ben aren't killed, sending Dean off on a quest with Sam in a weird role-reversal.

I want to be able to read casting stuff and ep titles and even descriptions without freaking out like a dork. This is not that show for me though.

That's good though. Speaks to the richness of the show. eta: And I like that we for the most part value our relationships and interactions enough to respect that about each other. I'd never maliciously drop a spoiler bomb in thread. I'd rather kick a puppy and I really don't want to do that.

I can think of one fairly easy way to separate Dean from Lisa and Ben regardless of whether it is love or just doing what Sam wants. Think of all the freaking dangerous enemies Dean has:

1) Any Demons remaining on earth. 2) Devil worshipers who saw the metaphorical wanted posters and don't know the reward is no longer offered (and probably never was).

3) Most hunters who still blame Sam & Dean for apocalypse and probably don't give them credit for stopping it.

4) Relatives of all the monsters Sam & Dean (and John) killed over the years.

5) The FBI if they figure out Dean is alive.

They don't need to fridge Ben & Lisa. A couple of near misses could convince Dean (and maybe Lisa and Ben as well) that their chances of continuing to breathe are enhanced by Dean going away. Especially if the near misses are isolated attempts, and Dean is convinced that there is still time to get out before word gets out of a connection between him and Lisa+Ben.

They don't need to fridge Ben & Lisa.

This is what I am feeling. I am willing to let Lisa and Ben go with no further interaction. I'd be really disappointed if they are killed to get rid of them. I have this sympathy for Ben and Lisa that it's not their fault for being involved with Dean. I don't want innocents to die. Let them come to the realization that it's not working and go their seperate ways. Please don't kill them.

I took my anti anxiety medicine which is kicking in, thus my lack of self censoring and opinion on everything. Apologies all around. I'm going to bed now while I can still walk straight. Heh.

I'm in agreement, Theresa. Yes.

Also, I was *such* a spoiler ho for BtVS S7 and AtS 4-5. I'm a ho for various other shows.

I just cannot deal with it with Supernatural. WHICH IS ODD.

I swear 90% the codas are the same. Some are written better than others, but as far as I could tell, most of them ignore Sam at the window and have a politely dysfunctional Dean/Lisa. Stir and taste...

I've been reading the same codas, I think. I keep wondering where all the codas are from the other perspective -- when Sam and Adam fell, there were four personalities that landed in hell (Sam, Adam, Lucifer, Michael) and yet I'm not seeing any fic coming out of it. It's not that I'm looking for torture -- God knows, I'm not looking for torture, or still more repetitions of the "I'm the good son, you're the rebellious son" argument -- but it seems like with the four of them there ought to be the opportunity for some kind of interplay. Maybe between Sam and Adam if nothing else. I did find one short yet powerful piece from Bobby's POV, from his brief time being dead and witnessing the four of them landing there. But that's pretty much it.