Home schooling? You know, it's not just for scary religious people anymore.

Buffy ,'Beneath You'


Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Dec 24, 2008 9:26:51 am PST #7841 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I don't think any Christmas special was actually forbidden in our house, just some were more welcome than others.

I just remembered, we used to have Valentine's Day parties. When we were in elementary school or so, my sister and I would both invite all our friends, and we'd serve heart-shaped cookies and cupcakes with pink frosting and stuff like that, and watch a Chipmunks Valentines special. (There was one other cartoon Valentine's Day thing -- maybe the Smurfs?) None of our other friends had Valentines parties, and I suspect much of the rationale for having one was that, by the time it got to be February in New Jersey, everything was just cold and grey and wet and dismal, and a pink party seemed like a good idea.


Steph L. - Dec 24, 2008 9:28:30 am PST #7842 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

ok, mostly it's nothing. small out-patient operationy type thing sometime in January. Waiting to confirm a date. Should be back to work the next day or day after.

That's excellent news!


Tom Scola - Dec 24, 2008 9:35:33 am PST #7843 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Yay, msbelle!


Trudy Booth - Dec 24, 2008 9:35:49 am PST #7844 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Christmas is a firm overlay on other traditions already

Any tradition is. Chanukah is lighting candles at solstice time. Thanksgiving is the same as a thousand other harvest festivals. Spring festivals likewise. People explode and burn shit to celebrate military victories. People honor their dead in ways that almost invariably seem odd to outsiders. Cultures adopt and adapt customs every time they encounter another culture. All of it is "pagan" because that just means "pre-monotheistic".

It's when traditions are invented that it gets weird. Though Kwanzaa might catch on better now that they have that great cake...


Trudy Booth - Dec 24, 2008 9:37:25 am PST #7845 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I just remembered, we used to have Valentine's Day parties. When we were in elementary school or so, my sister and I would both invite all our friends, and we'd serve heart-shaped cookies and cupcakes with pink frosting and stuff like that, and watch a Chipmunks Valentines special. (There was one other cartoon Valentine's Day thing -- maybe the Smurfs?) None of our other friends had Valentines parties, and I suspect much of the rationale for having one was that, by the time it got to be February in New Jersey, everything was just cold and grey and wet and dismal, and a pink party seemed like a good idea.

That's a good example of a religious holiday that ended up cultural. Well, if it ever was particularly religious. It certainly isn't (to my knowledge or experience) now. Off to Wikipeida...


Steph L. - Dec 24, 2008 9:39:49 am PST #7846 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Right now, NORAD says that Santa is at the International Space Station. Which is pretty cool. t edit There's even "video," and Santa has a bubble space helmet on.

Also? Russia is BIIIIIIG.


Hil R. - Dec 24, 2008 9:41:54 am PST #7847 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

On Christmas Eve in our town, the fire department (which is all volunteers) decorates one of the trucks and someone dresses up as Santa and sits on the back, and they drive around town sounding the siren and waving at people in the windows. (I'm not sure what would happen if there were an actual fire while this was going on -- I think we only have two fire trucks.)


Trudy Booth - Dec 24, 2008 9:43:27 am PST #7848 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Volunteer fire departments back one another up. When one is occupied there is another designated as on call.


Kathy A - Dec 24, 2008 9:45:49 am PST #7849 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I remember the siren at the fire station that would go off and alert any volunteers within earshot to come on in (if they didn't, they'd get a phone call as follow-up). It reached pretty far out into the farmland, which was where most of the volunteers were working.


Barb - Dec 24, 2008 9:53:49 am PST #7850 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

Well, FUCK. I screwed up the frosting.

Dammit, dammit, dammit