Egad, KRM. Good luck with the cyberstalker.
Xander: Just once I'd like to run into a cult of bunny worshippers. Anya: Great. Thank you very much for those nightmares.
'Sleeper'
Natter 62: The 62nd Natter
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Fred Pete - Nov 24, 2008 6:05:18 am PST #3076 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.
sarameg - Nov 24, 2008 6:16:23 am PST #3077 of 10002
Poor Loki is experiencing static for the first time in his life. It makes him very indignant.
Barb - Nov 24, 2008 6:17:18 am PST #3078 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”
Proverb help!
There's a proverb-- one of the grandmotherly types that is teasing the edge of my brain and I'm toying with using it in the MS. I think it's "pay the piper to give the devil his due" or something to that effect?
Yes? No? Do I have it completely mangled?
Calli - Nov 24, 2008 6:25:28 am PST #3079 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
The piper-related saying I remember is, "He who pays the piper, calls the tune." I've also heard "give the devil his due," but not with the piper bits. It could be I've just never heard the whole phrase properly.
brenda m - Nov 24, 2008 6:25:56 am PST #3080 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I've always thought of those as two separate proverbs (aphorisms?) but I could be misguided.
Emily - Nov 24, 2008 6:27:08 am PST #3081 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
I think that's two proverbs which mean the same thing. But I could be wrong.
Okay, so I'm late to the party. Let me offer my own favored quotation: "Take what you want and pay for it, says God."
Ginger - Nov 24, 2008 6:27:49 am PST #3082 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
I think you've squashed two together. There's "pay the piper," from the Pied Piper and "give the devil his due," grudgingly admitting that someone you don't like or admire has done something right.
Barb - Nov 24, 2008 6:29:06 am PST #3083 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”
Yeah, I can't find anything tying the two together. Could be I'm misremembering something I might have heard in Spanish-- lots of proverbs that get convoluted and mangled between translations.
brenda m - Nov 24, 2008 6:29:50 am PST #3084 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
These are from the Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, and also more-or-less mesh with my own understanding:
Give the devil his due:
Admit it when there is some good even in a person you dislike. This saying appears in Don Quixote, by Miguel de Cervantes.
Shakespeare also used the line, but I can't recall the context.
Pay the piper:
To pay the consequences for self-indulgent behavior: “If you stay up late at night to watch TV, in the morning you will have to pay the piper.”
Barb - Nov 24, 2008 6:31:16 am PST #3085 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”
Stupid brayne. I hate, hate, hate only partially remembering things that I know I've heard my entire life. One would think it would be right there at my fingertips, but nooooooooooo...
Bah.
Stoopit brayne.