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Natter 62: The 62nd Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


javachik - Nov 21, 2008 12:18:10 pm PST #2760 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

I won't get into my biological's mother's approach to "discipline".

But I lived for a long time with my beloved Aunt Sharon, and she spanked me one time. I still remember it. It was for mouthing off at her, and she cried when she delivered the spanking. It upset me to no end that I had caused her such grief, and I never mouthed off to her again.

At the same time, I went to a private Christian fundie church and was spanked with a wooden board that had holes in it (it hurt like HELL) 3 times in the one school year that I attended ICC. ALL three times were for being caught either kissing or holding hands with a boy (I was 11).


sumi - Nov 21, 2008 12:18:38 pm PST #2761 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Cheetah cubs.


javachik - Nov 21, 2008 12:20:44 pm PST #2762 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

Awwwww, cute. Thanks for the link, Sumi. Neat that the zoo has a place that allows the cheetahs to run as fast as they would in the wild.


aurelia - Nov 21, 2008 12:21:12 pm PST #2763 of 10002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

We didn't even have any especially big wooden spoons in the house

They don't have to be big. It stings.

Not to imply that I was mistreated. I was spanked, not beaten. I can only think of one time I didn't deserve it.


Gudanov - Nov 21, 2008 12:21:41 pm PST #2764 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

At the same time, I went to a private Christian fundie church and was spanked with a wooden board that had holes in it (it hurt like HELL) 3 times in the one school year that I attended ICC.

I don't know how much I hear that the lack of this is what is wrong with the schools.


tommyrot - Nov 21, 2008 12:22:29 pm PST #2765 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

One bad thing my dad used to do... When I started 7th grade, all of a sudden I developed a fairly bad stutter. He used to get very angry when I stuttered, and when I did stutter he'd try to force me to say what I was trying to say without the stutter. Needless to say his approach made things much worse for me.


javachik - Nov 21, 2008 12:26:04 pm PST #2766 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

The church school I attended was tiny, and the year I went there (the pastor and founders were my Aunt Sharon's family) was its second year. Since I had family who were heavily involved in the church and school (and still are--my Aunt lives in Kenya as a missionary -since 1986), I've been able to keep up on the news. It should be no surprise that the church, with its attitude toward sexual activity, had a very high teen birthrate. Of the 75 or so students in the school (it was K-12, don't know what it is now), in 1985 alone, there were 6 pregnancies carried to term.


Barb - Nov 21, 2008 12:29:10 pm PST #2767 of 10002
“Not dead yet!”

but man did we ever live in dire fear of the wooden spoon.

My mother, when she was in a particularly bad place after she and my dad separated, was very hair-trigger with her temper. One time, she came after me with a Dr. Scholl's wooden shoe.

Fucker hurts like a bitch, lemme tell you what.

Only times I've ever smacked the kids was when they were much smaller and about to do something incredibly stupid, like when Nate was about to touch the hot burner on the island cooktop. I was on the opposite side and the only way I could keep him from doing it was to lunge across the island and smack his hand away.


Emily - Nov 21, 2008 12:36:27 pm PST #2768 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

We were just made to feel my parents' disappointment in our behavior, and we lost their trust. It was surprisingly effective.

Word. On the other hand, I've wondered if it caused my overactive guilt reflex as an adult.

Just to bring things around, the only time I EVER got grounded was when I was out till midnight on a school night... with Miracleman. Would that we had been doing something more interesting than playing poker with quilt squares, but that really was it.

And I think I can finally go home, carrying my grading with me. Joy!


Liese S. - Nov 21, 2008 12:39:29 pm PST #2769 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I was spanked as a kid and am no worse for the wear. Only traumatic one was when I was spanked for crying. I'm sure there was more context there, but I didn't work it out at the time. Didn't stop me crying, that's for sure.

I was difficult to punish otherwise. I didn't go out that much, so grounding was ineffective. I didn't watch tv, so there weren't tv privileges to revoke. I remember once as a child I was disciplined for eating some treat at a verboten time, by being sent to my room...where the treat was. Hee.

Also being sent to my room was the most frequent and least effective punishment, because that was where the books were!