Atherton: Half the men in this room wish you were on their arm, tonight. Inara: Only half. I must be losing my indefinable allure.

'Shindig'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Nov 13, 2008 7:35:37 am PST #1027 of 10002

OMG, still waiting on the part for my car.


Trudy Booth - Nov 13, 2008 7:36:52 am PST #1028 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

A bone marrow transplant appears to have cured AIDS [link]

I was getting all teary reading it.


Typo Boy - Nov 13, 2008 7:45:12 am PST #1029 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah, apparently there are less than a few thousand potential donors world wide. But still, once we know one means of curing aids, maybe we can something that uses a more available resource.


Trudy Booth - Nov 13, 2008 7:51:53 am PST #1030 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Yeah, apparently there are less than a few thousand potential donors world wide.

Either you or the article have a figure wrong, the article said:

Roughly one in 1,000 Europeans and Americans have inherited the mutation from both parents

Of course, if we were CLONING these cells...


Tom Scola - Nov 13, 2008 7:52:13 am PST #1031 of 10002
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Not to mention that bone marrow transplants have a 30% fatality rate.


Typo Boy - Nov 13, 2008 7:54:15 am PST #1032 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh I thought it was less THAN a thousand. OK, that is huge. And yeah we night to start cloning the bone marrow. Fuck anyone who opposes cloning in those circumstances.


Trudy Booth - Nov 13, 2008 7:56:24 am PST #1033 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Not to mention that bone marrow transplants have a 30% fatality rate.

Yeah, that's the stickler Fauci focuses on. The person it appears to have worked on was already dying of lukemia so it was worth doing. Living as long and as well as one can with current HIV medications a 20-30% chance of death seems not great. Of course, maybe the fatality rate goes down when someone isn't already weakend by cancer, who knows?

There is a lot of work to be done -- but there could be an actual cure for actual AIDS which is pretty amazing.


sj - Nov 13, 2008 7:57:11 am PST #1034 of 10002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Skipping, so forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but Grey's Anatomy isn't airing until 1:06 AM here because of football. I'm not sure what other areas are affected by this.


Trudy Booth - Nov 13, 2008 7:59:56 am PST #1035 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Fuck anyone who opposes cloning in those circumstances.

I know, right?

I had a friend die of AIDS nine years ago. He'd apparently been positive for years before he and his partner knew and his partner never contracted it. We basically assume the partner has the gene. There was some talk of him being included in a study.


Gudanov - Nov 13, 2008 8:06:28 am PST #1036 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Oh I thought it was less THAN a thousand. OK, that is huge. And yeah we night to start cloning the bone marrow. Fuck anyone who opposes cloning in those circumstances.

This is the reason I'm very much opposed to knee-jerk legislation banning human cloning, well not this specifically, but medical cures in general.