Thanks, WindSparrow.

And the difference between them and shelf bras is...?

Also, I'm about having to duck tape my fingers together to not go all mushy and offer more hugs, Shir, after what you said the other day about not needing them every time you update on the situation. Just know that your sister and you and the whole situation are still getting as much ~ma as I can send.

And thanks again.

I'm stressed. And have to make soup, and read 2 articles.

Aww, I kinda like this. The glitter part is all Bitchy. Sorta.

In romance writing, it definitely is. It's a common defining factor of the ultimate Mary Sue heroine. Especially if she's TSTL and we can't figure out why in hell the hero would be interested in her. We figure it's because she must be in possession of The Glittery Hoo Ha of Happiness.

Of course, now MM has added further to the legend with his Raiders allusions.

This is the classic style sports bra [link] that qualifies as a shelf bra. Also, most built-in bras in camisoles and tank tops and swim suits are shelf bras. Shelf bra is not an official term, like underwire bra is. We just call it that, because the support offered is like putting both boobs up on a shelf between a couple of bookends. [link] It's an attractive way to store your books no matter how big the book, but not so attractive, or comfortable, generally, for boobs, particularly the bigger ones.

I see. Thanks!

(You people make me wanna invest lots of money, which I don't have at all, in expensive lingerie).

I wear underwires to work, but hate them even though they are comfortable. I am a child of the 70s and grew up with my breasts (as my husband would say) roaming free and proud, so any kind of underpinnings are annoying. I take any bra off the minute I get home and never wear one on the weekends, unless I am going out someplace.

I love my underwires, and will not give them up without a fight. For sports bras, may I recommend Champion's Maximum Support Line? The underwires only go up to DD, but I've owned all 3 shown & ran marathons in the Powersleek. They are awesome, and give less of a uniboob (uniboobs are bad for the large bosoms - much better to have individual support).

I spent too long with my mother trying desperately to minimize my tits, then with males of various ilk commenting on them, to care about more than holding them up and holding them still. I rather like the uniboob effect, because the girls are prominent enough without giving them a pointer effect. I just wish I could find more front closing bras, because I'm not bendy enough to want to deal with rear closing anymore.

According to the tiny woman at Nordstroms -- all my 'meat' is on the outside. If the idea is to push everything forward -- the wires dig. I am on the scrappy side of life ( c cup ) everyone is free unless work or other formal occasion.

Link to my risotto recipe

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