VW should only do what she feels like doing

Totally. I think everyone pretty much said that, too, just with some added "Grr." Which I mean to say completely kindly, by the way - I absolutely get what you're saying about some tangential relationships outlasting the main one.

Or maybe it's only me who does.

it's not only you. I can think of a moronic thing or two I've already done today.

I sort of feel like we're forgetting that people ARE head-explodey. Especially people in relationships. We keep seeing snippets of the conversation that outrage or confuse us...but damn, couldn't any of you post snippets from any conversation you've ever had with anyone and...well...I best be getting off to Macy's before I keep rambling.

Logically, this makes perfect sense, but vw is my very good friend, so I'm just going to stick with grr. And of course vw should do whatever she is comfortable doing wrt the gifts.

Humans aint perfect. We all screw up. All of the time. We all act like morons a lot of the time.

Definitely. I admitted in my post that his behavior is behavior I have sometimes exhibited myself (the being kinda hypocritical thing). But it still is what it is, whether it's me doing it or someone else. No reason not to call it (in either case!) But it doesn't mean one can't have compassion for someone being a little whatever-it-is-they're-being, which vw clearly does, even if we're all a little more growly.

Again, am speaking just to clarify my thoughts - nothin' but love for ya'. For reals.

((Vw))) I wish I had some better advice than do what's right. Sorry he's being so perplexing and head explodey.

I am currently roasting in my apartment. It's nice outside, 44F, I should be in a long sleeve shirt, some sleep pants, my slippers, bundled up. Instead I'm roasting, it's around 70 (I think it's hard to tell) and the heat isn't on.

I think it's heat rising from my downstairs neighbors or something. It's always hot when they are home.

Oh joy I just discovered my washer is utterly dead. And it died before the spin cycle so there is water in it. With my flat sheet.

lovely.

Oh, ugh, askye. At least that's one good thing about having a laundry room, there's usually multiple working appliances. Yay?

Which reminds me, someone remind me in 10 minutes when the House rerun is over to go put my laundry in the dryer.

Ugh. More wine.

Never a bad idea. Well, okay, occasionally a bad idea. But not here.

And, vw, do what feels *right* to you.

I'm totally going against the grain here, and forgive me.

No matter the advice, never apologize for this, java. We've got a hivemind for a reason and I, for one, appreciate the differing points of view.

I sort of feel like we're forgetting that people ARE head-explodey.

So very much so. I know I am head-explodey. I am.

Oh, and pigs are delicious. Mmm, pork.

Maybe we are all head-explodey, but I really think it is far more important in this thread to support each other than to give the benefit of the doubt to those who make our heads explode.

Especially bacon. Mmmm bacon.

(While I do believe in giving the benefit of the doubt to bacon, my post was in response to Cass. In case anyone wondered.)