I'm supposed to land at 3:18. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

I would LOVE this idea except I know there are many Buffistas who are panicking right now at the thought of not being able to LEAVE the F2F for a breather.

Well, the ships aren't nearly as big as some cruise ships, but they are largish, so we wouldn't need to be all together all the time. Plus, folks could go different ways in the ports.

For years, we've been bantying about the idea of doing one of our library association conferences on a ferry, but we just have too many people and need too much technology. This spring, I met someone who had just done a conference on the ferry. I don't remember what group it was, but it was a lot smaller, I think 25-40 people, and she was quite positive about it.

Although Juneau is most famous for scenery and wildlife (mountains and glaciers and bears, oh, my), we also have a world famous folk festival (spring), nationally acclaimed theater (small, but really good), and decent dining (mostly in the medium price range, with a couple of very nice, expensive places).

Seattle has the advantage of plenty of locals for driving, possible crash space, and insider knowledge.

I once went to Phoenix for business in July. It was 117 F. It didn't feel that hot during the 15 minutes before I almost passed out. Also, a good friend lives in Tucson, and there are very few cheap flights there from this part of the world.

I think Alaska would be neat, but the cost to get there is probably prohibitive.

Seattle sounds good to me.

I think Alaska would be neat, but the cost to get there is probably prohibitive.

This is my worry too. Doing some preliminary flight checks, the cheapest I could find from LAX was $540+ per person, and I know we couldn't do that. It makes me sad, though, because I do love Alaska (and Juneau in particular).

Also, a good friend lives in Tucson, and there are very few cheap flights there from this part of the world.

There are cheap flights to Phoenix, though, which is a couple of hours away.

Seattle has the advantage of plenty of locals for driving, possible crash space, and insider knowledge.

Very true.

FWIW, I've driven from Phoenix to Tucson and back. The cost of the difference in airfare more than made up for the price of renting a car, plus then I had a car to get around Tucson in.

You know, if I'm going to go all the way to Seattle, I might as well consider taking a side trip to Alaska while I'm out that way. Since I had no idea what my job/vacation situation will be next year, I can dream big.

Well, Nate has let us know that he'd like to go out west for his birthday trip next summer and we were considering an Alaska cruise, winding up in Vancouver. However, depending on the timing, we could easily come down to Seattle for at least a couple of days.

That would be a wicked fun trip.

Please note that *I* did not suggest "a resort," as the links demonstrate. Many of had lodging ranging from complete hotel comfort to hostel-like dorms to camping, giving lots of options for people on a budget and/or who like to camp.

When you can walk down to the beach by yourself, or go hike a trail, I'm just saying: there's nothing about a retreat center type place that doesn't allow escape time from Buffistas, in fact, better and more options for escape time than a hotel IMHO. But then I fall into the camp of people who prefers to go off on her own exploring (city or beach or country) and just really wants to have dinner with other people and swap stories of what the exploring that day turned up. Well, and I'd rather spend $35/day on lodging than $110 with tax. Even renting a car would still be much cheaper than hotels for days.

But whatever! Portland is great. There's a Marriott Suites across the river from Portland that has really nice spacious rooms with fireplaces and kitchen and a train right outside that crosses to Portland in about 5 minutes. Seattle is great.

Theo, Tucson in March is a fabulous break, right about when you start to think that it'll never stop being cold and rainy. But summer? ::shudder:: Maybe we could do both! PNW in July or Aug., and Tucson in March!

Could I put in my two cents' worth for someplace urban? my idea of roughing it is akin to Barb's ... and, in addition, I get nervous if I'm someplace with no public transit. Yeah ... total urbanite.

The cheapest airfare is to fly into Albuquerque, and then it's an hour's drive to Santa Fe.

And, of course, if you don't make that left turn, who knows where you'll end up.

Seattle sounds best to me, thought Portland doesn't sound bad either.