Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


F2F5: I forget that everyone isn't us

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon.


libkitty - Oct 05, 2008 12:12:32 pm PDT #69 of 12685
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I would LOVE this idea except I know there are many Buffistas who are panicking right now at the thought of not being able to LEAVE the F2F for a breather.

Well, the ships aren't nearly as big as some cruise ships, but they are largish, so we wouldn't need to be all together all the time. Plus, folks could go different ways in the ports.

For years, we've been bantying about the idea of doing one of our library association conferences on a ferry, but we just have too many people and need too much technology. This spring, I met someone who had just done a conference on the ferry. I don't remember what group it was, but it was a lot smaller, I think 25-40 people, and she was quite positive about it.

Although Juneau is most famous for scenery and wildlife (mountains and glaciers and bears, oh, my), we also have a world famous folk festival (spring), nationally acclaimed theater (small, but really good), and decent dining (mostly in the medium price range, with a couple of very nice, expensive places).


P.M. Marc - Oct 05, 2008 1:46:21 pm PDT #70 of 12685
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Seattle has the advantage of plenty of locals for driving, possible crash space, and insider knowledge.


Ginger - Oct 05, 2008 2:33:16 pm PDT #71 of 12685
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I once went to Phoenix for business in July. It was 117 F. It didn't feel that hot during the 15 minutes before I almost passed out. Also, a good friend lives in Tucson, and there are very few cheap flights there from this part of the world.

I think Alaska would be neat, but the cost to get there is probably prohibitive.

Seattle sounds good to me.


Pix - Oct 05, 2008 2:40:44 pm PDT #72 of 12685
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I think Alaska would be neat, but the cost to get there is probably prohibitive.

This is my worry too. Doing some preliminary flight checks, the cheapest I could find from LAX was $540+ per person, and I know we couldn't do that. It makes me sad, though, because I do love Alaska (and Juneau in particular).

Also, a good friend lives in Tucson, and there are very few cheap flights there from this part of the world.

There are cheap flights to Phoenix, though, which is a couple of hours away.

Seattle has the advantage of plenty of locals for driving, possible crash space, and insider knowledge.

Very true.


Theodosia - Oct 05, 2008 2:46:16 pm PDT #73 of 12685
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, I've driven from Phoenix to Tucson and back. The cost of the difference in airfare more than made up for the price of renting a car, plus then I had a car to get around Tucson in.

You know, if I'm going to go all the way to Seattle, I might as well consider taking a side trip to Alaska while I'm out that way. Since I had no idea what my job/vacation situation will be next year, I can dream big.


Barb - Oct 05, 2008 3:05:25 pm PDT #74 of 12685
“Not dead yet!”

Well, Nate has let us know that he'd like to go out west for his birthday trip next summer and we were considering an Alaska cruise, winding up in Vancouver. However, depending on the timing, we could easily come down to Seattle for at least a couple of days.

That would be a wicked fun trip.


Java cat - Oct 05, 2008 5:20:15 pm PDT #75 of 12685
Not javachik

Please note that *I* did not suggest "a resort," as the links demonstrate. Many of had lodging ranging from complete hotel comfort to hostel-like dorms to camping, giving lots of options for people on a budget and/or who like to camp.

When you can walk down to the beach by yourself, or go hike a trail, I'm just saying: there's nothing about a retreat center type place that doesn't allow escape time from Buffistas, in fact, better and more options for escape time than a hotel IMHO. But then I fall into the camp of people who prefers to go off on her own exploring (city or beach or country) and just really wants to have dinner with other people and swap stories of what the exploring that day turned up. Well, and I'd rather spend $35/day on lodging than $110 with tax. Even renting a car would still be much cheaper than hotels for days.

But whatever! Portland is great. There's a Marriott Suites across the river from Portland that has really nice spacious rooms with fireplaces and kitchen and a train right outside that crosses to Portland in about 5 minutes. Seattle is great.

Theo, Tucson in March is a fabulous break, right about when you start to think that it'll never stop being cold and rainy. But summer? ::shudder:: Maybe we could do both! PNW in July or Aug., and Tucson in March!


Toddson - Oct 06, 2008 3:45:33 am PDT #76 of 12685
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Could I put in my two cents' worth for someplace urban? my idea of roughing it is akin to Barb's ... and, in addition, I get nervous if I'm someplace with no public transit. Yeah ... total urbanite.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 06, 2008 4:39:20 am PDT #77 of 12685
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The cheapest airfare is to fly into Albuquerque, and then it's an hour's drive to Santa Fe.

And, of course, if you don't make that left turn, who knows where you'll end up.

Seattle sounds best to me, thought Portland doesn't sound bad either.


Theodosia - Oct 06, 2008 4:51:19 am PDT #78 of 12685
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I haven't been to a high-temp, ultra-low-humidity place since I started having hot flashes so perhaps I shouldn't be so eager for summer Tucson until I've given it a try again! My experience makes me think that I would feel very comfortable (i.e. not sweaty!), at least as long as I took care to stay hydrated.

I'd certainly contemplate some sort of Tucson mini-F2F in March, but since I can have no way of planning for whether I'll have a job, have enough money and/or vacation time, that is going to have to be put on hold.

Anyway, I hope I haven't offended with my Tucson boosterism -- it's just that it's a terrific place I wish I could show off personally to all of you, having had multiple chances to explore it as a tourist with the help of some local friends, and knowing deep down how cool it would be, because it fits so much of the criteria offered up for a suitable location!

::sadly puts away cheerleaderish pompoms and Miss Tucson 2008 sash::