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F2F5: I forget that everyone isn't us

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon.


Kathy A - Feb 18, 2009 1:29:07 pm PST #532 of 12685
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

For one of the groups, where a lot of the men go to New York City to work as iron workers

This might be the Cherokee--I read a Silhouette romance about ten years ago that had the hero be one of these iron workers. (Who says you don't learn stuff from romantic fluff?)


Dana - Feb 18, 2009 1:30:10 pm PST #533 of 12685
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

This might be the Cherokee--I read a Silhouette romance about ten years ago that had the hero be one of these iron workers.

I totally read that one too. Assuming it's the same one.


Hil R. - Feb 18, 2009 1:30:20 pm PST #534 of 12685
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Also, for the historical exhibits, there was a wall showing the "community curators" for each group -- people from that people who were involved in community historical and cultural stuff and had worked with the museum in setting up the exhibit.


megan walker - Feb 18, 2009 1:32:27 pm PST #535 of 12685
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

(Who says you don't learn stuff from romantic fluff?)

I used to read a lot of regency romances, especially when I was getting my doctorate and wanted fun reading on the side. I'm now reading a history of the extended Regency and I'm amazed at how much is familiar, from people and places to clothes and carriages.


Kathy A - Feb 18, 2009 1:33:55 pm PST #536 of 12685
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I totally read that one too. Assuming it's the same one.

Ironheart by Rachel Lee, one of her Conard County books (most of which were very intense and quite opressively dark, overall).


Dana - Feb 18, 2009 1:35:19 pm PST #537 of 12685
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yep! Most of the books in that series, or at least the three or four I read, are actually pretty good.


Kathy A - Feb 18, 2009 1:37:57 pm PST #538 of 12685
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Oh, they're very good, which is why they survived the Great Romance Book Purge of 2006--I got rid of about 70 percent of my romances, but kept most of my Rachel Lees and Jayne Ann Krentz/Amanda Quicks, all of my Nora Roberts and Loretta Chases, and various and sundry other titles.

Dark and oppressive romances don't mean they're not good. Kathleen Korbel (aka Eileen Dreyer for her mysteries) writes depressing romances that are fascinating to read but you really have to be ready for it--they deal with parental abuse, adult illiteracy, Downs' Syndrome, Vietnam nurses suffering from PTSD, suicidal thoughts on the parts of the hero/heroine, just to name a few.


Beverly - Feb 18, 2009 1:44:10 pm PST #539 of 12685
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

High steel workers are usually from tribes of the Mohawk Nation, which is native to the Northeast, where much of early to mid-20th Century high construction was concentrated.

Eastern Cherokee Nation tends more to the southeast mountains, Western Nation to the southwest; neither area has a high concentration of high steel construction. Some, but not a lot.


Hil R. - Feb 18, 2009 1:46:46 pm PST #540 of 12685
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Mohawk! Yes, the steel workers were part of a Mohawk exhibit. It was a bit more specific than that -- a particular group within the Mohawk nation -- but I don't remember the group name, just that it was about 20 letters long.


Beverly - Feb 18, 2009 4:35:06 pm PST #541 of 12685
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

According to, among others, this article it was the Kahnawake and Akwesasne Mohawks. They are minorly famous.