My thoughts: If it's between NY and Philadelphia, there are probably very few people who would be able to make it to one but not the other on any given date. It's not like some other times when we've been picking between cities that were really far apart. So voting for date first will give us the best idea of when to have it so that the most people can be there. If it turns out that the date we pick is one that has conflicts in one city, then we can go to the other city. It's better than picking a city first and then realizing that our choices are an expensive weekend when a lot of people can make it and a cheap weekend when everybody already has plans.

Here we go--this is an initial interest survey that we can use purely to gather some data: Click here to take survey

We can use the results to decide what we want to do next, whether an official date or city vote. Sound okay?

My biggest problems with the dates is that even as far north as New York, there's potential for ungodly heat (and worse, ungodly humidity). I like to be able to walk around a place I haven't been (or in the case of Baltimore or NYC a place I haven't been for while) without wanting to kill myself due to heat overload.

Okay. We can do Nova Scotia.

Nova Scotia would be awesome!

Good solved. We are doing things in Novia Scotia where it is cold. Moving on to the date.

I'm in!

Good. Next year we can have it in Yellow Knife.

Also if temperature is such a huge issue then we need to stop having the F2F any time other than middle of winter. How did we ever have one in Los Angeles.

I have a friend in Whitehorse. Apparently they have a pretty great cultural scene. Who knew?

I know we've talked about the temperature issue before. Yeah, it's going to be hot most places after June-ish, but Frank isn't the only one to have mentioned it.