the Hotel Pennsylvania. It's a great location, the rooms my friends had were large and it was easy to hang out with one another.

It's also a pigsty, and has a horrible bed bug reputation.

Early fall would mean having to plan around the Jewish holidays as well as school stuff.

I'm torn about location-related choosing because I've only been to a limited number of F2Fs but am certain that it's the people, not the location, that make it so great. I could hang out in a CVS store in Lincoln, NE, with most of you, and have a better time than in the center of NYC with just about anyone. So while a trip to NYC would be great, it's the hanging with y'all that is what I want.

I'd LOVE to see NYC again (and am actually planning to get there before "Fela" ends), but the activities that I want to partake in there are going to be expensive. I'd want to see a show or two, and dine in a couple of pricey estasblishments, etc, and I don't know how realistic trying to do that with all of our various budgets is (and I don't want to do those things instead of spending time hanging with Buffistas.)

(I think I just talked myself into two separate trips to NYC!)

In summary, I am going to lurk in this thread until it's actual voting time, then I am going to show up wherever and whenever y'all say to.

There aren't any Jewish holidays in early October, as far as I can see.

Vortex, do you remember how much the hotel you stayed at in Brooklyn was? There are several smaller hotels that have opened in the Gowanus area in the last couple of years. And there are a couple places nearby that could be used as venues for prom.

am certain that it's the people, not the location, that make it so great. I could hang out in a CVS store in Lincoln, NE, with most of you, and have a better time than in the center of NYC with just about anyone.

Since I haven't been to the past couple-few F2Fs, I'm wondering if making sure the city has decent public transportation is still an issue? (I just remember it being that way from F2Fs past, since not everyone drives or will rent a car.)

Obv. NYC has the public transportation angle covered.

I don't think anyone used the pubtrans in Madison, and we were kind of on the outskirts of town. Everyone (except me and Cashmere, 'cause our hotel was a couple of miles away) just walked.

Cereal:

Apparently I do not know how to "lurk".

I don't think anyone used the pubtrans in Madison, and we were kind of on the outskirts of town. Everyone (except me and Cashmere, 'cause our hotel was a couple of miles away) just walked.

Cool. I didn't remember hearing a whole lot of stories akin to "And then Steph had to get off the train because she was so hungover that she had to puke into a trash can!" (true story), so I was wondering if it was that important any more.

One thing that came up in a conversation this weekend (can't remember who I was talking to) is that many locales with cheaper hotels are also that much more expensive/difficult to fly into. Between three major airports, you can get to NYC from *anywhere*.

This was me I believe. I also feel like NYC is good for good food at various price points.

But, if I go to the East Coast, it will probably have to be late July for various family things so, like java, I feel I should abstain from the picking-a-place discussion.