You'd never make it. I'd rip your spine out before you got half a step. Those little legs wouldn't be much good without one of those.

Glory ,'The Killer In Me'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Barb - Nov 05, 2008 4:54:34 pm PST #9608 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

Meat and three sides. Classic southern diner staple.

And the hills around Birmingham are pretty amazing, especially in the winter. Very stark, with all the granite exposed.


quester - Nov 05, 2008 5:02:50 pm PST #9609 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I had basic training and MP school and Fort McClellan (sp) in Aniston, AL. It was in the foot hills and gorgeous. but Wallace was the governor so leaving the post was not fun for my African-American compatriots.


Barb - Nov 05, 2008 5:07:13 pm PST #9610 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

I can only imagine.

Speaking of Wallace, though, a really touching essay by his daughter, Peggy Wallace Kennedy on CNN today.

[link]


SailAweigh - Nov 05, 2008 5:07:46 pm PST #9611 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

especially in the winter. Very stark, with all the granite exposed.

I drove through Birmingham during the month of December on my way from Memphis to Tampa way back when. With all apologies to those who love the area, I thought it was ugly as hell. It could be that the interstate ran past some heavily industrial areas. All I knew was it didn't look like a place I wanted to stop and visit.


Barb - Nov 05, 2008 5:09:24 pm PST #9612 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

The city itself is UGH and industrial (or at least, was many moons ago). I likened it sort of to a Pittsburgh or Cleveland of the south. However, north of the city is very nice.


SailAweigh - Nov 05, 2008 5:22:15 pm PST #9613 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Well, winter usually doesn't present most places at their best. And I didn't have time to explore the area; it was fast track to get to and back while on leave. I mean, I like Detroit because I have tons of relatives there, but if I was just driving by on the interstate? Not necessarily a place I'd want to stop just by its looks.


Hayden - Nov 05, 2008 5:23:29 pm PST #9614 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Y'all don't know about the black belt? Billy, here. EDIT - link fixed, I hope.

My diehard conservative parents live near the SE corner of the state. I love that their Congressman is now Democrat Bobby Bright.

Also, I'm not used to watching Fox News eat one of its own, but this is fascinating: [link]


Burrell - Nov 05, 2008 5:26:52 pm PST #9615 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

sarameg that sounds like an awesome trip! You must go, if there's any way to swing it.

Also, is there really a Godless American PAC?

I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised.


msbelle - Nov 05, 2008 5:31:33 pm PST #9616 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ok, so this is the third instance that I have seen of Smith where he seems not at all bad. I don't watch tv news, but is that normal, is he actually balanced?


sarameg - Nov 05, 2008 5:37:55 pm PST #9617 of 10001

B'ham is ... different. My brother lives near Trussville but works downtown. Driving from the airport to, well, anywhere, you get an acquaintance with southern poverty. He used to live in a beautiful, but crumbling, house in the old city. On the edge of gentrification, but the outside edge. The poverty and racism were laid bare there. It has it's beauty, but.

They want to leave. I won't lie about that. It isn't just their sons having accents, it is the racism laid out before them, unhidden because they are so very white. And both don't want their kids to grow accustomed to that.

I just rewatched Obama's acceptance speech. Will be puffy eyed again tomorrow. GODDAMNED. It was as lovely as I recalled. And I kinda adore the Obamas' casual affection, whether between family and husband and wife, or MIchelle stroking the hair of (I presume) Biden's granddaughters. It's just so ...normal and kind and natural.

Anyway. I've pretty much decided I WILL go to this inauguration, even if only to stare at the backs of other peoples' heads. msbelle, you should join me.