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quester - Nov 05, 2008 9:08:14 am PST #9478 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

As happy as I was yesterday, now I am so upset. I was so proud of California just a few months ago. I just don't get it.

This.

My gay sister, who I was on the phone with as soon as Jon Stewart called the election, just emailed about her dismay over this vote. I want to see the break-down on how this vote happened, how close it was and who the fuck needs their asses kicked.


Daisy Jane - Nov 05, 2008 9:11:02 am PST #9479 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I was just telling a friend of mine in Orange County, how can it be that we turned so many red places blue, took control of the senate, elected more women than ever, shut down anti-choice measures and elected a black democrat to the highest office in the country, and yet liberal California voted to instill discrimination in their constitution?


Aims - Nov 05, 2008 9:11:22 am PST #9480 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Basically, start in San Diego, kick some ass all of the way on your way north til you hit the bay area, have a sammich to regain your energy, then start just north of the Bay Area and kick ass all the way back up and then down the eastern side of the state.

Fuckers.


JZ - Nov 05, 2008 9:15:02 am PST #9481 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

FWIW, Suzi, it was soundly voted down throughout the entire Bay Area. Santa Clara and Contra Costa counties were the two where it came closest to squeaking through, and even there it only managed a 45% yes vote. The rest of the Bay Area, including Alameda County, was much more lopsided.

I knew it was close, that the inland, small town and farming counties would be heavily for it; I was kind of hoping that the small but sturdy contingent of libertarians and contrarians who show up at every single election and reflexively vote "No" on every single proposition would tip the balance.


Connie Neil - Nov 05, 2008 9:25:52 am PST #9482 of 10001
brillig

Obama was called the winner very early, and there were probably a lot of people in California for whom Prop 8 was significant but not enough to get them to the polls once they knew Obama had won. The kind of people who think equal rights for gays doesn't impact their lives.


megan walker - Nov 05, 2008 9:27:01 am PST #9483 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

I just don't get it.

Honestly, if marriage equality wasn't foremost on my agenda, I'm not sure what part of the "No on 8" campaign would have convinced me. I thought the ads were particularly bad. And, when a major part of your slogan is telling people on the other side that they are wrong, I'm not surprised it was hard to win last-minute converts.


SuziQ - Nov 05, 2008 9:28:01 am PST #9484 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

SFGate.com has county by county results for the larger Bay Area, but I'd like to find something that show the statewide results.

Let the legal challenges begin.

Still heartbroken. Stoooopid self-centered, non-tolerant idiots.


megan walker - Nov 05, 2008 9:29:20 am PST #9485 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

The LA Times map that Perkins linked to has the state map.


SuziQ - Nov 05, 2008 9:30:20 am PST #9486 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm not sure what part of the "No on 8" campaign would have convinced me. I thought the ads were particularly bad.

And that is not something I saw from here. Education - what is the difference between the rights with or without the ban would have been the way to go.

I know so many couples who got married in the last few months and I know this isn't supposed to negate their marriage, but where does it really leave them?


-t - Nov 05, 2008 9:34:48 am PST #9487 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Damn. I was doing really well with denial on that one. I still can't believe that my neighbor's voted to amend the state constitution to deprive people of rights.