what happened with prop 8??? I'm insomniooggling and I can't find anything.
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Sometimes my state saddens and disgusts me.
Oh, I'm gonna go to the special hell.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Natter 61*
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Lee - Nov 05, 2008 1:37:55 am PST #9351 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Anne W. - Nov 05, 2008 1:45:05 am PST #9352 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Here are some interesting comparisons on the electoral vote:
2000 Bush: 271 Gore: 266
Split of 5 electoral votes, with lingering dispute as to whether Bush actually won or not
2004 Bush: 286 Kerry: 252
Split of 34 electoral votes
2008 (incomplete returns) Obama: 349 McCain: 159
Split of 190 electoral votes with only 30 left in play.
Shir - Nov 05, 2008 1:46:34 am PST #9353 of 10001
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".
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God dammit.
hippocampus - Nov 05, 2008 2:15:25 am PST #9354 of 10001
not your mom's socks.
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crap.
billytea - Nov 05, 2008 2:18:36 am PST #9355 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Split of 190 electoral votes with only 30 left in play.
Very true. It looks like a 2:1 victory. Also note that the last President to win a higher proportion of the popular vote was Bush Sr. That's no small achievement. This looks very much like a realignment election to me.
hippocampus - Nov 05, 2008 2:21:12 am PST #9356 of 10001
not your mom's socks.
::gives billytea a scrapple high-five::
Theodosia - Nov 05, 2008 2:22:38 am PST #9357 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Sorry to hear about Prop 8... I know in MA that the State Representatives had to do a whole lot of political maneuvering to keep similar proposals for constitutional amendment off the ballot, which seems to have given Bay Staters enough time to get used to how equal marriage actually works in practice. (i.e. no collapse of civilization as we know it, Biblical wrath, cats and dogs living together, et cet.)
The fight ain't over. My heart goes out to all whose marriages, who friends' and families' marriages are affected materially by this setback.
hippocampus - Nov 05, 2008 2:25:26 am PST #9358 of 10001
not your mom's socks.
Theodosia speaks for me.
Barb - Nov 05, 2008 2:36:03 am PST #9359 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”
Good morning, New World Order. And Happy Birthday, CaBil!
CA-istas, I'm so sorry about Prop 8-- cold comfort that it was at least far closer than Prop 2 was in Florida.
Love this picture of the White House. It really does look like the storming of the Bastille.
billytea - Nov 05, 2008 2:38:12 am PST #9360 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
gives billytea a scrapple high-five::
The messiest high five ever!
No, wait. That would be the Philly cheesesteak high five.
The fight ain't over. My heart goes out to all whose marriages, who friends' and families' marriages are affected materially by this setback.
So true. The forces of intolerances are pulling all this crap because they know they're losing ground. They should still be losing it faster.
On this note, reversing Prop 8: it's no more onerous than passing it in the first place, right? A straight plurality in a referendum? (I know it may take a while, but I'm sure demographics are on the right side in this struggle.)