It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.

Buffy ,'Get It Done'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Nov 03, 2008 7:12:22 am PST #8082 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Now I have "On My Own" in my head, too -- except it's from Fame! Der.


Amy - Nov 03, 2008 7:17:21 am PST #8083 of 10001
Because books.

Oooh, I like that one, too, Jesse! Although my all-time favorite from that is probably "Is It Okay If I Call You Mine".


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2008 7:17:51 am PST #8084 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Hegelian dialectic came up in conversation with my sister yesterday. In order to make sure I hadn't been too off base I looked it up in wikipedia. Now I'm not sure if I was off base or not. What does this mean:

Another important principle for Hegel is the negation of the negation that he also terms Aufhebung (sublation): Something is only what it is in its relationship to another, but by the negation of the negation this something incorporates the other into itself. The dialectical movement involves two moments that negate each other, a somewhat and an another. As a result of the negation of the negation, "something becomes an other; this other is itself somewhat; therefore it likewise becomes an other, and so on ad infinitum". Something in its passage into other only joins with itself, it is self-related. In becoming there are two moments: coming-to-be and ceasing-to-be: by sublation, i.e. negation of the negation, being passes over into nothing, it ceases to be, but something new shows up, is coming to be. What is sublated (aufgehoben) is on the one hand ceases to be and is put to an end, but on the other hand it is preserved and maintained. In dialectics, a totality transform itself, it is self-related.

It's English, right? The words do look familiar. It's the sentences that mystify me.

Thanks, Jesse. Now I have Fame stuck in my head.


Jesse - Nov 03, 2008 7:22:00 am PST #8085 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oooh, I like that one, too, Jesse! Although my all-time favorite from that is probably "Is It Okay If I Call You Mine".

I don't know the whole show, but that one song was popular in my singing classes in high school.

Thanks, Jesse. Now I have Fame stuck in my head.

Awesome.


Barb - Nov 03, 2008 7:22:05 am PST #8086 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

Oooh, I like that one, too, Jesse! Although my all-time favorite from that is probably "Is It Okay If I Call You Mine".

"I Sing the Body Electric."

It's so earnestly 70s.


§ ita § - Nov 03, 2008 7:26:50 am PST #8087 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Awesome.

Fame costs.

And right here is where you start paying.

In blood.


tommyrot - Nov 03, 2008 7:27:58 am PST #8088 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What does this mean:

I had this explained in a simplified (I think over-simplified) way in a class on Ibsen. The prof. said that you start with a Thesis (which I guess is some idea about society) which then results in some people taking the opposite view, or the Antithesis. Then people incorporate these two ideas together, which is the Synthesis. Then the Synthesis becomes a new Thesis, and the cycle continues.

I don't know if this explains anything better than your quote. Maybe we can wait for someone who knows what they're talking about to come along.


Kathy A - Nov 03, 2008 7:28:00 am PST #8089 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

"Hot Lunch"!!

Shady Sadie (Shady Sadie...)/Southern lady (she's a Southern lady!)


DavidS - Nov 03, 2008 7:29:33 am PST #8090 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I guess I note here that EM was the model for one of the characters on Fame (the movie, not the TV show).


Barb - Nov 03, 2008 7:32:47 am PST #8091 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

I couldn't help myself.

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It's the song with the multiple codas, I swear.