Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Burrell - Oct 29, 2008 4:12:06 pm PDT #7353 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

WRT Obama vs PD: we discovered that here at least FOX is airing it at 9, not 8, so we're tivoing both.


sarameg - Oct 29, 2008 4:46:37 pm PDT #7354 of 10001

I hadn't had a milkshake in YEARS. Maybe a decade. But when I got my cold, I really fucking wanted a milkshake. So I threw together a frozen banana, some soymilk and sugarfree chocolate syrup and OMG. It's now an addiction. At least it is pretty damned healthy.

Strawberries work too, but the banana makes the creaminess.


Kat - Oct 29, 2008 4:48:48 pm PDT #7355 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

This is genuinely confusing to me because I've seen so many parents who integrate their children's needs into their own and everyone gets what they need. Rather than losing something by having kids, they seem only to see parenting as gaining something in their lives.

I can't imagine a world in my family where everyone got what they needed. It just doesn't work out for us that way. Instead, we have a world that has been greatly transformed and where real sacrifices are being made because of the needs of our children. And granted, the needs are different than many kids, but I think most parents do sacrifice, actual genuine sacrifices, for their kids.

I will also say that the sacrifices I make are well worth it, even when it maddens me.

RE: Traveling was difficult for just me with Noah. If I had to do it again, I'd do non direct flights because I think maybe a layover would give him time for new stimulus. It's hard to be the sole entertainer for a 15 month old.


sarameg - Oct 29, 2008 4:51:22 pm PDT #7356 of 10001

My brother once arrived home from a flight peed on, barfed on and smeared with peanut butter. D was in a great mood, though!


Jesse - Oct 29, 2008 4:53:28 pm PDT #7357 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If I had to do it again, I'd do non direct flights because I think maybe a layover would give him time for new stimulus.

I kind of think that for myself, after my last trip!


Kat - Oct 29, 2008 4:55:32 pm PDT #7358 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Sure! It takes longer, but stretching my legs and his might not be a bad thing. I think of this because in the Spring we might travel to see my parents.


Tom Scola - Oct 29, 2008 5:14:51 pm PDT #7359 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Sixteen weeks until pitchers & catchers.


msbelle - Oct 29, 2008 5:15:04 pm PDT #7360 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

See, I've been debating that for Christmas. 1 stop makes flights much cheaper, but I fear weather delays.


Jesse - Oct 29, 2008 5:18:20 pm PDT #7361 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

For Vegas, it turned out that the nonstop I took was cheaper than the one-stops I was looking at. I think it was just some weird fluke.

I will make a point of never flying through Memphis in the evening, or Chicago in the winter, if I can help it at all, though.


Kat - Oct 29, 2008 5:21:54 pm PDT #7362 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

msbelle, yeah. 1 stop is different than an unexpected overnight or an unexpected 6 hour layover.

I saw two other mothers travelling with a passel of kids and they were on a layover between NJ and CA in Ohio. They were the ones who pointed out how good a stop is.

I read a book called "Rockabye" that infuriated me for exactly the "You just integrate your kid into your life! They are flexible!" And sure, that's true for some kids and some parents. But it's not true for me and not true for Noah and not true for Grace for sure.

I think of how selfish it is to assume that my kid will just adjust to me without thinking about what their specific needs are. Like, Noah will be happy entertaining boy all night but honestly, he is much happier the next day if he actually sleeps at 7 PM the night before. So sure, he could adjust to my personal life of going out if I had one, but frankly, it's not worth it to me in the long run.

And Noah, bless him, is an easy baby. He does self entertain and we go out to eat with him at least one meal a week. He is actually a dream in restaurants. But frankly, that's an oddity. I would never expect him to self entertain on a long car ride (though he made it between CA and Idaho twice in a 4 month period and he also does okay between LA and Vegas or LA and SF) or on the plane.