Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Oct 15, 2008 6:09:10 pm PDT #4872 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

McCain = twitchy and blinky; I think he needed some Ativan.

Obama = COOL AS ICE ICE BABY.

I don't think the debate swayed anyone. Although I have big respect for Obama not losing his shit about the fact that McCain's supporters were yelling "Kill Him" at rallies. He's WAY zen. (Or possibly had a couple of extra nicotine patches on [this was a suggestion from The Boy].)

McCain went at the debate like he had nothing to lose. And really, he didn't. So props for that.

But I can't watch that twitchy blinkiness for 4 years. Jesus.

SMOOV IN '08!


amych - Oct 15, 2008 6:20:27 pm PDT #4873 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I don't think the debate swayed anyone.

Not sure about that:

CBS poll of undecided voters:

Who won the debate?

McCain (R) 22
Obama (D) 53

Shares your values

Obama, Before the debate: 54
Obama, After the debate: 63

McCain, Before the debate: 53
McCain, After the debate: 56

The one in bold (assuming I didn't screw up formatting) is HUGE. The win/loss numbers are consistent with all the other debates, but the fact that this was a poll of undecideds, and a lot of those have been holding back on "I'm not comfortable with him" grounds, that's a big shift. When the trackers catch up with post-debate sampling, I predict that the trend will continue very much as it has been in the last few weeks -- it didn't decide anything in terms of final outcomes -- but with a lot fewer undecideds than there were a week earlier.


Steph L. - Oct 15, 2008 6:31:13 pm PDT #4874 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The one in bold (assuming I didn't screw up formatting) is HUGE.

Oooh -- I'm happy to be wrong there!


Kat - Oct 15, 2008 6:36:15 pm PDT #4875 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Grace is a nice antidote to debate stupidity.


amych - Oct 15, 2008 6:38:21 pm PDT #4876 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

THE PHILLIES WIN THE PENNANT! THE PHILLIES WIN THE PENNANT! THE PHILLIES WIN THE PENNANT!


quester - Oct 15, 2008 6:38:36 pm PDT #4877 of 10001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Awwww!

this was about Grace NOT the Phillies.


msbelle - Oct 15, 2008 6:42:13 pm PDT #4878 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I think I skimmed too fast, where were people getting the real-time up and down reaction info on the debate? (men were up on McCain when he spoke about abortion, McCain support went down when he mentioned Palin...)


Dana - Oct 15, 2008 6:43:47 pm PDT #4879 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

CNN had reaction lines for undecided voters from Ohio.


msbelle - Oct 15, 2008 6:44:57 pm PDT #4880 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

gotcha. thanks.


Kat - Oct 15, 2008 6:47:46 pm PDT #4881 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And since I'm spamming. Noah learned the magic of peek-a-boo on his bidding.