I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.

Angel ,'Chosen'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Trudy Booth - Oct 03, 2008 7:39:47 am PDT #2286 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Of course, they read stuff. Which I don't think Bush or Palin are even capable of doing. At least, in Bush's case, not above the level of "My Pet Goat".

How can you say that? She reads ALL the newspapers and magazines!

ALL of them.


Jesse - Oct 03, 2008 7:40:36 am PDT #2287 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

They were religious "mavericks" who felt that they could become closer to God through self-study of the biblical texts and the writings of Jesus. A hierarchical church structure was often anathema to their understanding of their faith.

Yeah, I think the "study" part is where that comparison falls apart.

Although Baptists continue to not believe in a hierarchical church structure, for what that's worth.


Steph L. - Oct 03, 2008 7:41:08 am PDT #2288 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Without the anti-intellectual part, this is a good definition of Gnosticism. Which was frowned upon (to say the least) by the early Christian church. They were religious "mavericks" who felt that they could become closer to God through self-study of the biblical texts and the writings of Jesus. A hierarchical church structure was often anathema to their understanding of their faith.

Of course, they read stuff.

My ex-FAC was like that. They were (I assume they still are) VERY into inductive bible study, researching the Greek/Aramaic/Hebrew roots of the words to see how accurate the English translations are, etc.

And that was a big part of what I liked about them -- they *read* stuff, they researched it, they didn't just passively assent to dogma.

Except....I truly think only a small handful actually read and researched, and then they twisted the results to match what they wanted to believe anyway, and then the rest of the church *did* passively assent, but they could claim that their beliefs were the result of lots of studying. Just not their own studying.

Conclusion: people who read can still be assholes. Assholes in the name of Jesus.


Miracleman - Oct 03, 2008 7:45:13 am PDT #2289 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

She reads ALL the newspapers and magazines!

ALL of them.

Laughing at Beetle Bailey because you don't understand it doesn't count.

Nor Hagar the Horrible.


Nora Deirdre - Oct 03, 2008 7:48:03 am PDT #2290 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

"Oh, Andy Capp, you wife-beating drunk..."


Dana - Oct 03, 2008 7:50:35 am PDT #2291 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Sarah Palin debate flowchart:

[link]


msbelle - Oct 03, 2008 7:52:58 am PDT #2292 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I tend to think of any stance of dismissing the benefit of expertise in a field of study as anti-intellectual.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 03, 2008 7:57:18 am PDT #2293 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

How can you say that? She reads ALL the newspapers and magazines!

ALL of them.

Heh, Jon Stewart included the bit when she clarified that any media that were put in front of her, she read, and, of course, had a field day with it. Me? I'm wondering what happens if you put porn in front of her.


Toddson - Oct 03, 2008 8:09:55 am PDT #2294 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Yet another weird Palin baby name.


flea - Oct 03, 2008 8:19:11 am PDT #2295 of 10001
information libertarian

The Ig Nobel Prizes were announced at the same time as the debate (hmmm...) [link]

As a former archaeologist, I can say that armadillos are actually a serious problem in the interpretation of some archaeological sites. It's funny, but it's true.