but our economy is shit and a bunch of Americans DID do it.

I totally agree. But remember that in this debate she was prepped to talk to Joe Six-Pack and Mrs. Hockey Mom who want to hear, "You didn't do it and we won't let the big bad money people come after you again like those two over there will. We'll fix it, we promise. We're Mavericks." *wink*

Also, Palin seemed WAY too proud of being able to pronounce "Ahmadinejad."

HA! Yeah, it looked like she was looking for any opportunity to show that off. Also, they probably drilled it into her but forgot about Nucular. Or maybe they thought if the Prez says it, it's good?

So the money managers and money lenders and greedy Wall Streeters aren't part of the American public?

Obviously. What are you, nuts? It's Wall Street VERSUS Main Street!

Oh god. The nuc-u-lar thing drives me up a tree faster than just about anything else.

And people who call my dog Barn-alby. I get that there are only two common references to the name Bartleby in the vernacular but DUDE, you've heard ME pronounce it about 4,000 times. Catch up.

Ahem. I suspect I'm in a mood.

I didn't listen to the debate and am despondent to read all the 'she did better than expected' headlines. That is not what I wanted to hear.

It's Wall Street VERSUS Main Street!

Us against them, bay-bee!

God, how much do I want to go to Eastern Standard and drink nummy classic cocktails.

She WINKS.

Dude.

So the money managers and money lenders and greedy Wall Streeters aren't part of the American public?

It's just like how actors aren't real people.

all the 'she did better than expected' headlines.

Bonny, all that means is "We thought she'd speak in tongues, but she didn't." Seriously. The only bar set for her was "Don't fuck up too badly."

She's a total huckster -- if you keep talking and grin and wink, you can say literally ANYTHING, and it'll come off like you're the world's greatest orator.

Am listening to the 1776 soundtrack this morning.

"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; that two become a law firm; and that three or more become a Congress! And, by God, I have had this Congress!"

With the topic of the current VP coming up, I remembered that Cheney still exists. I'm sort of surprised they won't even reanimate him to deliver some "Frankly, blah blah blah" gravitas during the financial situation we're having. Well, maybe not really surprised, but boy has he disappeared from the face of the Earth.

The best ratings anyone got in the debate with an attack was when Biden was hammering Cheney. I suspect the GOP's polling says he's about as popular as scrapie right now. He needs to do something to make the people fear and respect him again. Maybe he should shoot a man in Reno just to watch him apologise.

Palin was certainly scripted, and that avoided a repeat of the Couric debacle. But I note that it meant, first, Biden had a free pass to hammer McCain (and the audience was buying it), knowing she couldn't respond without getting off-script; and second, that when Biden choked up talking about his family loss, Palin kept sailing blithely on without so much as an offer of condolences. They can bond over both supporting Israel, but she couldn't get out of her script to acknowledge her opponent has known real tragedy.

I don't see this debate changing the numbers (does it ever?), but the fact she didn't drool probably helps make McCain's existing support more solid.