Giles: Helping out with the dishes makes me feel useful. Dawn: Wanna clean out the garage with us Saturday? You could feel indispensable.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 61*  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Oct 01, 2008 9:37:54 am PDT #1661 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

omg you guys I am so exhausted. I have just a few days to finish the last two chapters of my book, and then I'm gone for a week to the symposium I've been planning for over a year.

I have so much shit to do to get ready, and DO NOT have time to be at work right now. Especially since the only thing on my plate is travel arrangements and some friggin busy work that can wait until I return from Monterey.


Jessica - Oct 01, 2008 9:41:06 am PDT #1662 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Some of Palin's interview responses can't even be critiqued on their merits because they're so nonsensical. But even that is someone else's fault, say Palin supporters. The media make her uncomfortable.

What I want to know is, if she's not competent enough to answer a simple question from Katie Couric, why does anyone think she's qualified to go after Al Qaeda???


erikaj - Oct 01, 2008 9:43:01 am PDT #1663 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Besides the fact that her actual voice might make them run screaming?


Dana - Oct 01, 2008 9:44:09 am PDT #1664 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's gotten to the point where the sight of Sarah Palin makes me feel ill.


Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2008 9:57:08 am PDT #1665 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

>her gift of the glittering generality

I keep hearing this, and I just don't get it. Same as I didn't get it when people were saying it about Bush.

A lot of human communication is based on stuff other pure content. Body language, tone intonation, style, key words - signals. And if you ignore actual content she comes across very well. Imagine she was talking about a subject you know almost nothing about. She speaks decisively, like a tough Mom who loves her kids but won't a seconds nonsense from them. Until she was caught on tape speaking gibberish, she sounded bright besides. (She may combine ignorance with a bad memory and poor skills in covering these up, but still be intelligent in certain ways.) Also the resemblance to Tina Fey is definitely not a negative, and she also has general appeal to anyone with a hot-chicks-with-glasses fetish. (Who me?).

I will say that in a less extreme way, people who supported Obama with illusions that he is some sort of lefty were guilty of the same sort of decision making. I supported him as a lesser evil, without illusions. But when people are shocked, shocked at some of his choices, it is because they judged him by style and keywords and signals rather than by the actual content of his proposals and speeches. And yea, I understand the as person the differes are huge. Obama is brilliant, with decades on knowledge. Whatever her native intelligence, Palin is in practice a dumbass. But what they have in common is that lot of supporters of both judged by all sorts of dog-whistles and signals over content. That applies I think to all the candidates - certainly to Clinton.


DavidS - Oct 01, 2008 9:59:24 am PDT #1666 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My parents: [link]

Your dad's a handsome sonofabitch, and your mom looks a whole lot like Elizabeth Moss on Mad Men.


Sheryl - Oct 01, 2008 9:59:24 am PDT #1667 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Have a bit of a headache. Am hoping the combination of food, caffeine and Tylenol will make it go away.


lisah - Oct 01, 2008 9:59:37 am PDT #1668 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Imagine she was talking about a subject you know almost nothing about. She speaks decisively, like a tough Mom who loves her kids but won't a seconds nonsense from them.

huh. We must be listening to different things. Of course I'm biased but she sounds hesitant and incoherent to me.


Typo Boy - Oct 01, 2008 10:00:35 am PDT #1669 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Of course I'm biased but she sounds hesitant and incoherent to me.

In interviews or even in response to casual quetions, yeah, but given a script...


Barb - Oct 01, 2008 10:02:27 am PDT #1670 of 10001
“Not dead yet!”

Oy, I still can't believe this picture. [link]

Loving everyone else's pictures. I should scan some of my mom.