Nothin'. I just wanted you to face me so she could get behind ya.

Mal ,'The Train Job'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Sep 29, 2008 9:29:26 am PDT #1307 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I must agree that 700 billion does force one to pause, but yipes!

I did think it was interesting how all this mess made the earmarks "scandal" seem like a whole lot of nothing during the debate on Friday. McCain was like, "$18 billion!!eleven!" and Obama was like, "Please. Like that even matters anymore???"


Hayden - Sep 29, 2008 9:33:23 am PDT #1308 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

My rep apparently voted against the bailout bill, according to CNN.

"Like the Iraq war and patriot act, this bill is fueled by fear and haste," said Lloyd Doggett, D-Texas.


brenda m - Sep 29, 2008 9:33:51 am PDT #1309 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Well, to be fair, it was chump change all along - it's never been more than a side issue, but it's the only economic issue McCain can go anywhere near.


Jesse - Sep 29, 2008 9:36:22 am PDT #1310 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, definitely -- but two years ago, I would have thought that many billions was real money.


Gudanov - Sep 29, 2008 9:38:16 am PDT #1311 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

It is also fairly cynical, I think, and possibly not addressing what the ramifications will be to joe-schmo on the street.

I can't say I really understand everything. But I'm thinking the problem is that there is so much money in the mortgage backed securities that nobody wants that the credit market is frozen, and businesses won't be able to borrow money. At some point that means individuals won't be able to borrow money and the economy will perhaps seize up. Sort of like draining the oil out of an engine?


sj - Sep 29, 2008 9:40:54 am PDT #1312 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

My rep apparently voted against the bailout bill, according to CNN.

Do you have a link for how to check how your rep voted?


Gudanov - Sep 29, 2008 9:41:54 am PDT #1313 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I did think it was interesting how all this mess made the earmarks "scandal" seem like a whole lot of nothing during the debate on Friday. McCain was like, "$18 billion!!eleven!"

His budget freeze didn't sound very impressive either since he was exempting defense and entitlements. Then there is interest on the debt that can't be frozen, and you've got the lion's share of the budget unfrozen anyhow.

To be fair, all candidates try to talk about cutting the budget while excluding almost all of it.


Tom Scola - Sep 29, 2008 9:42:48 am PDT #1314 of 10001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Do you have a link for how to check how your rep voted?

[link]


Cashmere - Sep 29, 2008 9:44:34 am PDT #1315 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I think the average person is just saying, "fine, I won't borrow any money." Not realizing the importance of commercial paper and the short term loans that drive small and medium businesses and give them the wherewithal to you, you know, operate.

I didn't love the bill but I could see the pragmatism behind voting for it.

Now, I guess it's a matter of regrouping and seeing how bad things actually get before they try another resuscitation attempt.


msbelle - Sep 29, 2008 9:46:59 am PDT #1316 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I know that banks within the US are basically not lending money to each other, and it has been getting worse for months, not weeks on that count. Europe has been a source for money, but that is seizing up now as well.

From above, the whole "It's a Wonderful Life" syndrome is already happening: Wamu article: [link]

Wachovia blog posts: [link]